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11 votes
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Microsoft removes Huawei laptop from store, remains silent on potential Windows ban
7 votes -
The lost Louvre of Uzbekistan: The museum that hid art banned by Joseph Stalin
8 votes -
alyaza is unbanned
A couple of days ago, I loudly banned alyaza. After investigating it more, I no longer believe that DearDeer was their alt account, so everything I accused them of doing in that post was not true,...
A couple of days ago, I loudly banned alyaza. After investigating it more, I no longer believe that DearDeer was their alt account, so everything I accused them of doing in that post was not true, and they've been unbanned.
There are a lot of justifications and excuses I could give for why I got it wrong, but in the end it doesn't really matter. I made a somewhat-rushed decision, but I was confident about it at the time. Yesterday I spent more time looking into it, including following the invite chain and managing to get in contact with the person that sent the invite that DearDeer used to register. Between talking with that person (who was remarkably helpful) and some other info, I found more evidence that DearDeer wasn't alyaza than I had used to originally decide that it was, and realized that I was wrong.
This is a good example of why I don't like publicizing bans. Without me making that post about it, I'm sure this still would have been noticed by some people, but it could have been a relatively quiet temporary ban that lasted for about a day while it got sorted out. Instead, it ends up as a multi-day unnecessary spectacle. I'm not bothered by the effect on me because of that—I screwed up and deserve the embarrassment and criticism that comes from it, and I fully accept that. But it was unfair and cruel to alyaza to be falsely accused of things publicly, and that can't be reversed.
Decisions like this (and moderation in general) are often judgment calls that have to be made quickly and with incomplete information. Sometimes, like in this case, you make the wrong call, and more time, information, or an appeal leads you to reverse it. There can be value in having that happen in public, but there can also be harm, and I think this case absolutely leaned more towards the harmful end.
Anyway, I'll leave the comments open this time so that you can berate me appropriately. Please avoid commenting on alyaza personally though—I've already done enough damage and we don't need to continue that.
90 votes -
Banned accounts should have their past comments visible
So, this is, in part, in response to the alibaba ban. I think it's bad practice not to know why someone got banned. Firstly, it may lead to excessives from your part ("I will ban anyone and...
So, this is, in part, in response to the alibaba ban.
I think it's bad practice not to know why someone got banned. Firstly, it may lead to excessives from your part ("I will ban anyone and everyone I want and no one will know"). Secondly, it fails to show other posters that X behaviour will get you banned.
8 votes -
alyaza is banned (maybe permanently, but for at least a week regardless)
I generally haven't been making public posts about bans any more (there have been almost none recently anyway), but I'm sure there will be people wondering about this one since they were a very...
I generally haven't been making public posts about bans any more (there have been almost none recently anyway), but I'm sure there will be people wondering about this one since they were a very prolific poster.
I've banned alyaza. Whether it's temporary or permanent depends on how they justify it to me, but I told them that it would last for at least a week regardless. I've previously warned alyaza about their behavior multiple times (both publicly and privately), and they were aware that they were on their last chance to stop being so hostile when disagreeing with others. Today they registered a new account (DearDeer, which is also banned now) and started immediately using it in disingenuous ways, including arguing with the same comments from both accounts. I'm not sure if the intention was to circumvent that final warning instead of changing behavior, but it absolutely wasn't being used for good-faith purposes regardless.
I'm going to lock this thread immediately since it's really not worth fostering drama or dwelling on it with a big public discussion, but I wanted to post an explanation at least. If you have any questions or thoughts about it, please feel free to send me a message instead.
55 votes -
Maine is the first state to ban styrofoam
11 votes -
In car-choked Brussels, the pedestrians are winning
6 votes -
When a country bans social media - Sri Lanka’s ban on social media forces a question nobody wants to ask: what if a global media network is impossible?
5 votes -
California National Guard defies Donald Trump on transgender troop ban
12 votes -
A bill banning most abortions becomes law in Ohio
22 votes -
Are plastic bag bans garbage?
11 votes -
With Facebook ban on white extremism, international norms apply to US
10 votes -
How US recycling is changing now that China won’t take it
11 votes -
Hundreds of US cities are killing or scaling back their recycling programs
23 votes -
New Zealand to ban semi-automatic rifles
32 votes -
Tumblr suffers 150 million drop in traffic after porn ban
30 votes -
Australian government bans Milo Yiannopoulos from entering Australia
8 votes -
What happens now that China won't take US recycling: Many waste-management companies are simply burning recyclables or sending them to landfills
15 votes -
YouTube bans comments on videos of children
35 votes -
Poland moves step closer to banning gay conversion therapy
14 votes -
Botswana mulls lifting elephant hunting ban
5 votes -
Nauru bans 'telemedicine' for medical transfers in threat to new Australian laws
5 votes -
Premier Daniel Andrews has just announced that the Victorian government will ban gay conversion therapy in that state
9 votes -
New York passes Gender Expression Non-Discrimination Act (GENDA) and legislation banning “conversion therapy”
12 votes -
Two Indian women enter temple after centuries-long ban on women
7 votes -
Total fire bans as catastrophic fire conditions predicted for part of South Australia
5 votes -
Sam Harris drops Patreon, rips 'political bias' of 'Trust and Safety' team's bans
17 votes -
Slack is banning users who have visited US-sanctioned countries (including Iran and Cuba) while using its app
20 votes -
No more of your junk
7 votes -
Palau to ban sunscreen products to protect reefs
10 votes -
Ban on Chinese mobile giants for 5G 'needed to protect critical Australian infrastructure'
6 votes -
Single-use plastics ban approved by European Parliament
37 votes -
Ban entire pesticide class (organophosphates) to protect children's health, experts say
5 votes -
California bans restaurants from automatically giving out plastic straws
10 votes -
California becomes the first state to restrict plastic straws at restaurants
17 votes -
'For me, this is paradise': Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
14 votes -
European science funders ban grantees from publishing in paywalled journals
16 votes -
Twitter was going to ban Alex Jones — until its CEO stepped in and protected him
19 votes -
China officially bans ABC website, claims internet is 'fully open'
9 votes -
Daily Tildes discussion - our first ban
After reaching a nice milestone yesterday of over 1000 users registered, we've followed it up with a slightly less nice one—I've now banned someone for the first time. This almost certainly won't...
After reaching a nice milestone yesterday of over 1000 users registered, we've followed it up with a slightly less nice one—I've now banned someone for the first time. This almost certainly won't happen with every ban, but I'm going to be quite transparent with this one since it was the first one, and it gives a good starting point for a discussion today.
Trying to be transparent about this one is actually a bit funny, because the user I banned was named "Redacted" (really, I promise!). I had removed his comments from the thread, but I've un-removed them for now so that you can see exactly what I banned for: https://tildes.net/user/Redacted
There were two reasons that I decided to ban him:
- Those last 3 comments, all in the ~talk thread. That thread has been a bit heated in places, but overall it's been civil and going pretty well. He came into it without being involved in the discussion at all and went straight to personal attacks.
- He went through and tagged almost all of Mumberthrax's comments as some combination of "troll", "flame", and "noise"—sometimes even all 3 tags on a single comment. That's just blatant misuse of the tags, with no possible reasonable excuse. (Note that I've already removed all his tags, so you won't be able to see them any more)
So that's a pretty clear case of being an asshole, in my opinion. Let me know what you think—I'm not sure that there's any particular focus for the discussion today, so we can just talk about this specific case as well as banning/removing in general since this is the first time I've had to do anything (and I was just saying how nice it had been).
161 votes -
Could we have a stickied list of all bans with reasons included?
In the interest of transparency (and a little bit in statistics) it would be really cool to have a master banlist or at least a thread with links to all ban-worthy posts. This would help new users...
In the interest of transparency (and a little bit in statistics) it would be really cool to have a master banlist or at least a thread with links to all ban-worthy posts. This would help new users understand what isn't acceptable in the community and allow for community discussion on what could be considered an unjustified ban or a weird influx of bad behavior. This wouldn't be super viable when the site goes public, but would be a neat implementation in Tildes' alpha state.
14 votes -
California Senate passes bill to ban gay conversion therapy
23 votes -
How will Tildes work with bans?
Basically, with groups being admin controlled rather than the reddit system of mods, will all bans be site wide or should group bans be possible? Let's say somebody is harassing or being an...
Basically, with groups being admin controlled rather than the reddit system of mods, will all bans be site wide or should group bans be possible? Let's say somebody is harassing or being an asshole on ~LGBT, should they be banned from ~LGBT or from the website?
21 votes -
Australian states and retail chains ban single-use plastic bags
16 votes -
China has refused to recycle the West's plastics. What now?
7 votes -
China just handed the world a 111-million-ton trash problem
17 votes -
Denmark bans the burqa and niqab
15 votes -
Jail time for using a plastic bag: Is Kenya's strict ban helping or hurting its people?
8 votes -
Facebook to be banned in Papua New Guinea for a month
7 votes