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Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Twitter partner for ambitious new data project
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Looking inside a used voting machine from the 2016 election
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Young Justice: Outsiders | Official Comic-Con trailer
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Glass | Official trailer
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Labor leader must stand up to militant union demands
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No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space (Due to “stand your ground law”)
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Daily Tildes discussion - General questions/feedback
It's been a couple of weeks again since the last general feedback thread, so let's do another one today. Especially since the site has finally been open-sourced now, and we've already had people...
It's been a couple of weeks again since the last general feedback thread, so let's do another one today. Especially since the site has finally been open-sourced now, and we've already had people starting to submit code contributions, it would probably be great to hear about some more general issues/suggestions/etc. that can be added to the issue tracker and potentially worked on by other people.
So if there's anything you want to discuss, ask about, suggest, etc. but didn't feel like starting a dedicated thread for it, fire away!
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Been off for a month...what did I miss?
I've gone through more tough shit over the last month. What juicy drama and or changes did I miss?
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General music recomendations thread.
I've never really listened to very much music beyond video game soundtracks, but i'm interested in getting more into it and finding what I like. Do you have any general recommendations or "genre...
I've never really listened to very much music beyond video game soundtracks, but i'm interested in getting more into it and finding what I like. Do you have any general recommendations or "genre starter" music?
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lunatic86, an x86 emulator written in Lua running in OpenComputers running in Minecraft running on Java
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Google Translate's deep dream: some translation requests yield weird religious prophesies
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James Gunn fired as director of 'Guardians of the Galaxy' franchise over offensive tweets
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Dozens of PC games drop Red Shell tracking software after surveillance fears
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blockqotes
full quotes: paragraph one paragraph two per-paragraph quotes: paragraph one paragraph two
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Two fungal species—one pathogenic, one benign—are actually the same
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The last days of Blockbuster Video - The stories of three closing Blockbuster locations in Alaska, some of the last ones in the country
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Transgender men talk about life on the other side of the gender divide
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The big Sean Murray interview - Hello Games' founder on the remarkable journey of No Man's Sky
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Quality news sources
Independent, investigative journalism in the public interest is becoming harder and harder to find. This is a shame because an informed public is critical for democracy to function effectively....
Independent, investigative journalism in the public interest is becoming harder and harder to find. This is a shame because an informed public is critical for democracy to function effectively.
What news sources do you recommend for people trying to avoid the distraction of biased, sensationalist outlets like Fox News or CNN?
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David Davis brands use of child spies ‘morally repugnant’ – Theresa May’s spokeswoman defends practice revealed by House of Lords committee
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Tweeting for 10,000 Years: An Experiment in Autonomous Software
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Stardew Valley | Multiplayer update trailer and release date (August 1)
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Linux.Pictures | gnu/linux related pictures (wallpaper, posters, playing card, etc.)
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Here are the 285,000 Paul Manafort text messages that WikiLeaks wouldn't publish
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The Truth About Japanese Tempura
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I would like a points feature like reddit karma.
It will be really helpful for the front pag.e
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Remove the search engine setting. Hard-code the search engine to Google
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Why I fought the sexist gear community (and won)
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Gonzo Socialism
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Taking away the phones won’t solve our teenagers’ problems
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Firefly: Cultural representation or appropriation
If you haven't watched Firefly, this should still be safe to read. No spoilers. Let me start by saying I'm a huge fan of Firefly. If someone could somehow combined the core cast, the favour of the...
If you haven't watched Firefly, this should still be safe to read. No spoilers.
Let me start by saying I'm a huge fan of Firefly. If someone could somehow combined the core cast, the favour of the universe, the ship, the adventures and everything into one awesome person, that person would be my BFF. However, as an Asian, I probably would not be theirs.
Background
The series is a space cowboy western drama. It takes place in the year 2517 in assumed to be distant solar system from our Earth (Earth-that-was). From the comics, there's a brief comment that mentions Earth-that-was sent generation ships to colonize this new solar system. The ships were sent by the two main superpowers at the time - USA and China. This explains the general western feel mixed with, I'm going to call it - generic Asia.
Core characters
- Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds
- Zoe Alleyne Washburne
- Hoban "Wash" Washburne
- Inara Serra
- Jayne Cobb
- Kaywinnet Lee "Kaylee" Frye
- Dr. Simon Tam
- River Tam
- Derrial Book
- (The ship, Serenity)
And yes, though Kaylee, and the Tam's stand out as Asian-ish names, they are not Asian. In fact no one in the core cast is. There was mention that Kaylee was suppose to be, but they just fell in love with Jewel Staite. I honestly can't imagine another Kaylee, but still can't help but wonder. And to be honest, I'm not sure how I feel with the idea of the only Asian walking around as the only person wearing Chinese clothes.
Non-core characters
Too many to list, but feel free to scroll down the list on IMDb.
You'll find "Jim Lau" - Narrator. I also believe I saw an Asian woman in "Heart of Gold" but can't find her name, so I'm guessing it's an uncredited part.
That's right, in a universe settled by the Americans and Chinese, you'll see maybe one unnamed Asian.
Asia without Asians
But not seeing Asian people doesn't mean there's no Asian influence.
- Kaylee wears "Chinese" clothes a fair bit and even has a paper umbrella. Of course, if any of you have recently visited pretty much anywhere in China, you'll notice no Chinese people wear clothing like that walking their dog.
- Chinese food, like "bao" is also mentioned.
- Quirky Chinese things like "washing feet" and "hundreds of fat children" are woven in.
- The Chinese language in both written and spoken form are littered through-out. The ship, Serenity is named in Chinese (painted on her), but no one actually refers to her by it. Bits of Chinese are tossed around everywhere and obviously every person in this universe is expected to be fluent. There was Asian consultation on this part, so a lot of the language is "correct". They went out of their way to string together crazy sentences, so it's not anything most people would say, but honestly adds to the show. And for their part, you can tell the actors do put an effort in speaking it right, with varying levels of success.
Final thoughts
I still love the show, but do feel disappointed that someone can obviously love my culture so much to see its influence everywhere in this series, but not enough to actually include us.
Edit: formatting
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Emergency medical services in America
This comes from an article in Current Affairs, which to be upfront is an openly leftist publication. I thought it was an interesting anecdote, especially with the news from a few weeks ago about...
This comes from an article in Current Affairs, which to be upfront is an openly leftist publication. I thought it was an interesting anecdote, especially with the news from a few weeks ago about the woman in Boston begging for people not to call an ambulance for her because she wouldn't be able to afford it (which is also mentioned in the article).
I was in a New York City diner two nights ago and something disturbing happened. It was about 2am, and a woman was sitting alone in the next booth. She was disheveled and possibly homeless, and looked unwell. She had been eating a plate of food, but then sprawled herself along the seat and fell asleep. Someone in the restaurant must have called 911, because an ambulance showed up. They parked directly in front of the entrance and left the flashing lights on, and through the large windows the lights filled the restaurant and were overwhelmingly dazzling. The two paramedics approached the woman and told her to sit up. She mumbled a refusal. They insisted. As she finally sat up, bleary, they told her she would need to leave with them and that she should pay her bill. She replied that she had no money. The paramedics became upset, one of them asking her why she would order food if she couldn’t pay for it, and telling her she’d need to pay before they left. While the paramedics stood issuing her instructions as she muttered and fumbled, a young man at the front of the restaurant quietly approached a server and paid her bill. He then told the paramedics he had paid for her. They looked vaguely annoyed, and told her she should be grateful that a stranger just paid for her. The woman did not seem to comprehend, and just made a noise. Then the paramedics took her out to the ambulance. In the hour or so I stayed in the restaurant, the ambulance didn’t leave, and kept its lights on.
Here’s why I was disturbed: the paramedics did not act like health professionals. They acted like cops. At first, I thought they were cops. Their uniform was similar, and the dazzling flashing lights were like police lights, and had the same bewildering effect. They were more concerned with whether the woman had paid her debts than whether she was okay. They had very clear contempt for her, treating her as a nuisance who was bothering restaurant patrons and needed to be removed. She wasn’t actually bothering anyone, of course; I was sitting in the next booth and had barely noticed her, and there were plenty of spare booths in the diner. But the paramedics were aggressive and unsympathetic in the way that many cops are. Incidents like the one I saw must happen constantly all across the country: homeless people and drug addicts (I don’t know whether the woman was intoxicated or on drugs, though it seemed somewhat likely) not being cared for with compassion, but being “policed” even by those who are supposed to be selflessly devoted to the improvement of health. The flashing lights were totally unnecessary, and made the whole diner feel like a police raid. And, of course, how typical of America that the issue of whether you can pay the bill is more important than whether you will live or die.
What do you think of this? If you've had an experience with emergency medical services, how did it compare?
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Why Google won't break a sweat about EU ruling
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Personal growth
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Nightflyers Season 1 Comic Con Trailer (based on the novella by George R. R. Martin)
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Australian governments concede Great Barrier Reef headed for 'collapse'
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British public bought £14bn of goods made by slaves in 2017, claims report
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Fundamental Value Differences Are Not That fundamental
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Jazz Gangsters (aka Denizo) - Dj Set (3/10/2013) Stackenschneider, Saint-Petersburg
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When is a nation not a nation? Somaliland’s dream of independence.
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REMAINIACS podcast with David Allen Green
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Breath of the Wild content added in update to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
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A couple of old works of mine.
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World record progression: Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars to return with 12 new episodes following its abrupt cancelation in 2014
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User history
You guys should add the ability to review the posting history of yourself and other users! I really love the site so far tho, and I'm super happy to express any ideas I have. So far I'm really...
You guys should add the ability to review the posting history of yourself and other users!
I really love the site so far tho, and I'm super happy to express any ideas I have. So far I'm really impressed with what you have here
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Hey ~creative! I present to you: my picture of a bee in a smoking jacket
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Trump invites Putin to visit US
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Moving from advertising-supported media to a sustainable, high-quality, alternative -- some light reading
This is a complex issue and one that's hard to address succinctly. It gets into the larger matter of media and its role and interaction with society, which is profound. This includes political and...
This is a complex issue and one that's hard to address succinctly. It gets into the larger matter of media and its role and interaction with society, which is profound. This includes political and social elements going far beyond consumerism and consumption, though those are part of the dynamic.
For a short answer: advertising is not the only problem, but is a large component of a set of conflicts concerning information and media. It both directly and indirectly promotes disinformation and misinformation, opens avenues to propaganda and manipulation, and fails to promote and support high-quality content. It also has very real costs: globally advertising is a $600 billion/year industry, largely paid out of consumer spending among the world's 1 billion or so wealthy inhabitants of Europe, North America, and Japan. This works out to about $600/year per person in direct expense. On top of the indirect and negative-externality factors. Internet advertising is roughly $100 billion, or $100/yr. per person if you live in the US, Canada, EU, UK, Japan, Australia, or New Zealand. The "free" Internet is not free.
And the system itself is directly implicated in a tremendous amount of the breakdown of media, politics, and society over the past several years. Jonathan Albright, ex-Googler, now a scholar of media at the Tow Center (and its research director), Columbia University in New York, "Who Hacked the Election? Ad Tech did. Through “Fake News,” Identity Resolution and Hyper-Personalization", and editor of d1g (estT) (on Medium).
[S]cores of highly sophisticated technology providers — mostly US-based companies that specialize in building advanced solutions for audience “identity resolution,” content tailoring and personalization, cross-platform targeting, and A/B message testing and optimization — are running the data show behind the worst of these “fake news” sites.
(Emphasis in original.)
A Media Reader
By way of a longer response, I'd suggest some reading, of which I've been doing a great deal. Among the starting points I'd suggest the following, in rough order. Further recommendations are very much welcomed.
Tim Wu
The Attention Merchants is a contemporary version of the media, attention, distraction, disinformation, manipulation, and power game that's discussed further in the following references. If you're looking for current state-of-the-art, start here. Ryan Holiday and Trust Me, I'm Lying is a 2012 expose of the online media system. For an older view, Vance Packard's 1950s classic (updated), The Hidden Persuaders gives perspective both on what methods are timeless, and what's changed. A 2007 New York Times essay on the book gives a good overview.
Hamilton Holt
Commercialism and Journalism (1909) is a brief, easy, and fact-filled account of the American publishing industry, especially of newspapers and magazines, at the dawn of the 20th century. Holt was himself a publisher, of The Independent, and delivered this book as a lecture at the University of California. It gives an account of the previous 50 years or so of development in publishing, including various technologies, but putting the greatest impact on advertising. I'm not aware that this is particularly well-noted, but I find it a wonderfully concise summary of many of the issues, and a view from near the start of the current system. Holt includes this quote from an unnamed New York journalist:
There is no such thing in America as an independent press. I am paid for keeping honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. If I should allow honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation, like Othello's, would be gone. The business of a New Yourk journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the foot of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools or vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.
(An HN commenter reveals that this was John Swinton.)
Jerry Mander
Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television. This is a 1970s classic that's held its value. Mander is an ad executive himself, though he took his talents to the Environmental movement, working closely with David Brower of the Sierra Club.
Adam Curtis
BBC documentarian, most especially The Century of the Self (part 1, part 2, part 3, and part 4), and Hypernormalisation. These documentaries, the first a four-part series, the second a self-contained 2h40m single session, focus on media and propaganda. The first especially on Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud (Bernays' uncle), advertising, and propaganda. The second on Vladimir Putin.
Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media. The title itself comes from Walter Lippmann and his earlier work, Public Opinion, which is something of a guide to its manufacture, and the genesis of "modern" 20th century media. The notion of mass media as having a political economy is a critical element in answering your question. That is: media is inherently political and economic, and advertising and propaganda (or as it was rebranded, "public relations"), all the more so.
Robert W. McChesney
McChesney has been continuing the exploration of media from a political-economic perspective and has an extensive bibliography. His Communication Revolution in particular discusses his own path through the field, including extensive references.
Marshall McLuhan
Particularly The Gutenberg Galaxy and The Medium is the Message.
Elisabeth Eisenstein
Either her book The Printing Press as an Agent of Change or the earlier (and much shorter) article that pressaged it, "Some Conjectures about the Impact of Printing on Western Society and Thought: A Preliminary Report" (more interesting than its title, I promise). Eisenstein draws heavily on, and improves greatly on the rigour of, McLuhan.
Generally: Other 19th and 20th century media scholars and writers
H.L. Mencken, I.F. Stone, and perhaps Walter Lippmann and John Dewey. Mencken and Stone are particularly given to shorter essays (see especially The I.F. Stone Weekly Reader, The Best of I.F. Stone and his New York Review of Books articles) which can be readily digested. Mencken's "Bayard vs. Lionheart" whilst not specifically concerning advertising largely describes the crowd-psychology inherent in mediocre or pathological social-political outcomes, and is a short and brilliant read. Mencken has a long list of further writings.
Edward Bernays
Especially Propaganda and Public Relations. Bernays created the field of public relations, and largely drove the popular support of "democracy" (a WWI war bonds advertising slogan) in favour of the earlier "liberty". For Stone, I cannot recommend his Day at Night interview (~1974) highly enough. 30 minutes. Bernays' New York Times obituary makes interesting reading.
Charles-Marie Gustave Le Bon
The Crowd: A study of the popular mind. "[C]onsidered one of the seminal works of crowd psychology." Wikipedia article.
Charles Mackay
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841). "[O]ften cited as the best book ever written about market psychology." Wikipedia article.
I have yet to read all of these works, though they're on my list, and I've at least reviewed most of the works and authors and am familiar with major themes. Virtually all of these will lead to other sources -- books, articles, authors, fields of study -- by way of bibliographies (looking backward) and citations (looking forward). Among my favourite and most fruitful research techniques.
This is also really just a starting point, though I hope it's a good one. Media isn't my field, or rather, I'd thought that, working in technology, it wasn't, but I've come to realise that (1) "information technology" is in very large part "media technology", and (2) the interactions of media systems and society, politics, economics, even culture as a whole, are beyond deep, and highly underappreciated.
The role of mass media in the spread of early-20th century Fascism is a particularly sobering story. See "Radio and the Rise of The Nazis in Prewar Germany", and recognise that you could include cinema, magnetic audio tape recording, public address systems (it's hard to address three quarters of a million people without amplification). More recently, radio has been studied in conjunction with the 1994 Rwandan genocide. These remain extant issues.
Bootnote
Adapted from a StackExchange contribution.
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