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3 votes
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Suspected Iranian influence operation leverages network of inauthentic news sites and social media targeting audiences in US, UK, Latin America, Middle East
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Press conference shows Urban Meyer still doesn't get it
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Civil disagreement (or, how to get people to consider your meta-opinions while not singling out individuals)
A Short Summary and Introduction Before the Actual Content of This Post: A site—especially a small one, like Tildes—is going to have growing pains. That's natural. It's also natural, and to some...
A Short Summary and Introduction Before the Actual Content of This Post:
A site—especially a small one, like Tildes—is going to have growing pains. That's natural. It's also natural, and to some extent, necessary, for users to raise issue with remedies for these growing pains. However, there's a spectrum of correct ways to do this, and a way to not do this. If you aren't interested in—or think you already have a firm grasp on the subject of—this post, you might want to skip it.
Tildes has reached its first major streak of growing pains, as I'm sure everyone active or lurking's noticed. We've also reached our first few incorrect methods of handling these. There are a few obvious things you shouldn't do, and everyone knows that—tantrums, slurs, personal attacks, etcetera—I'm going to be discussing a less realised one, and ways you could handle it instead.
Now, onto the good stuff.
Repeatedly, when handling issues, Tildes has seen a recurring circumstance. User makes post, upset. User namedrops and or subposts a user (the most apt description I could think of for a term lifted off of Twitter—subtweet—for example, "I'm not saying it's Garfield I'm talking about, but there was a suspiciously large orange cat with a mild food addiction with a fondness for lasagne who really pushed my buttons!" and etcetera). User hits "send." The targets of it feel offended, and the poster gets yelled at by the community for hurting people. No one wins.
The trick to fixing this: stop going out of your way to call out users, directly or indirectly. If you have issue with something someone said, either take it to an administrator, or directly message the user in question (politely, of course.) There's no reason to air dirty laundry in public, and there's no reason to bring personal grievances into the public eye for minor things.
If you notice an issue, do the above, and nothing changes, wait a short while before making a post on it. There's a fair chance it will resolve itself. If you end up feeling the need to make a post, do not mention individual conversations. Do not give examples from actual conversations; make an analogous example and put it into quote blocks. Never name a name or names, don't allow hate to be directed at anyone.
We're all (presumably) adults (or close enough,) here. If you have any desire for Tildes to flourish, act like an adult. Passive aggression isn't the behaviour of one. Aim to have better behaviour than the docs recommend; you might slip up sometimes, but you'll never fall too far if you keep that in mind.
Anyway, if you ended up reading this; thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it. I've spent a lot of time handling large forums, and in comparison to most of you, fairly small, incredibly high-volatility subreddits with immeasurably close communities. If you can't get a community to do the above, or something close to it, it's more or less going to be a death warrant for it. We'd all prefer not to have that happen to Tildes, so I—and presumably, most of us—would really appreciate if people made an effort to stop that from occurring.
Hate to copy reddit's slogan, but really:
Remember the Human.
Thanks again,
Eva.
27 votes -
Super Mario creator warns gaming industry: Don't be too greedy
18 votes -
Jeremy Clarkson in defense of the car
6 votes -
Ancient girl's parents were two different human species
16 votes -
If you’re wondering why you’ve lost friends in adulthood, this is probably why
20 votes -
A preview of Amazon's MMORPG "New World"
17 votes -
This is what filter bubbles actually look like
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Reddit releases more details about the upcoming changes to Reddit Gold
If you missed it, Reddit recently announced some major planned changes to Reddit Gold. It's pretty vague and confusing, but my summary was: The current gold system is basically: When you have...
If you missed it, Reddit recently announced some major planned changes to Reddit Gold. It's pretty vague and confusing, but my summary was:
The current gold system is basically:
- When you have reddit gold, you can disable ads and have access to a few extra features.
- You can buy gold for $4/month or $30 if you buy 12 months at the same time. You can also buy "creddits" for the same prices, which are basically stored months of gold and can either be used on yourself or to give gold to other users.
- Giving gold to other users is called "gilding". You can gild individual posts on the site, which puts a gold icon on that post and gives the author a month of gold.
Now, from what I can understand, this is the new system:
- Reddit gold is now called "Reddit Premium". You can buy it for yourself for $6/month. There are no bulk discounts any more, so a year of Premium will cost $72. Existing subscribers can keep their current pricing as long as they're subscribed before the change.
- When you have Reddit Premium, at the beginning of each month you will be given some amount of "Gold Coins". These Coins can be used to give "awards" to other users' posts.
- You can give 3 different types of awards to a post, which each cost a different number of Coins:
- Silver Award - costs the fewest number of Coins; adds a silver icon on the post; the author receives no further benefits
- Gold Award - costs more Coins; adds a gold icon on the post (same as current icon); the author receives some small number of Coins (not Premium)
- Super Gold Award - costs the most Coins; adds a "spectacular" icon on the post; the author receives a month of Reddit Premium
- Gold Coins will be purchasable in bundles separately from Premium, pricing not announced.
Today they released more info in /r/lounge (here's the post if you have reddit gold to be able to view it). The summary of the new post is:
- "Super Gold" has been renamed "Platinum"
- If you have any creddits, you have the choice to convert them to months of Premium membership before Sept. 10. If you don't, they'll be converted to 2000 Coins per creddit.
- You get 700 coins per month for having Premium.
- The awards that you can give to posts have these coin costs/benefits:
Award Coin Cost Benefits Silver 100 Coins Silver icon next to comment or post; a lingering sense of disappointment that you didn’t get Gold Gold 500 Coins Gold icon next to comment or post; additionally, recipient receives 100 Coins Platinum 1,800 Coins Platinum icon next to comment or post; recipient receives one month of Premium membership (which includes 700 Coins) And there will be the following "Coin Packs" available for purchase:
Price Point Coin Package Discount % What You Can Buy $1.99 500 Coins N/A 5 Silver Awards or 1 Gold Award $3.99 1,100 Coins 10% 11 Silver Awards or 2 Gold Awards $5.99 1,800 Coins 20% 18 Silver Awards, 3 Gold Awards, or 1 Platinum Award $19.99 7,200 Coins 43% 72 Silver Awards, 14 Gold Awards, or 4 Platinum Awards $99.99 40,000 Coins 59% 400 Silver Awards, 80 Gold Awards, or 22 Platinum Awards 52 votes -
Whale hunt in Faroe Islands turns sea red with blood
10 votes -
'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' showrunner reveals how he really wanted the series to end
13 votes -
The Alt-Right Playbook
21 votes -
USA and Australia are dysfunctional: Hyper-partisanship is killing two great democracies
16 votes -
Something needs to be done about Spotify's atrocious new update
13 votes -
Facebook will pull its data-collecting VPN app from the App Store over privacy concerns
7 votes -
What's the Best Horror book you've read in the past year?
I finished The Little Stranger last week. While I found the pacing very compelling, I felt some pretty palpable dissatisfaction in how everything ended. I can't quite put my finger on it...
I finished The Little Stranger last week. While I found the pacing very compelling, I felt some pretty palpable dissatisfaction in how everything ended. I can't quite put my finger on it...
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Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull clings to power, but three-way showdown between Julie Bishop, Peter Dutton and Scott Morrison looms
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Minor Voting System Suggestion
A problem I've noticed on Reddit (and here sometimes) is that a thread will have a good subject and a good amount of replies, but less than half the upvotes/votes than there are replies, even...
A problem I've noticed on Reddit (and here sometimes) is that a thread will have a good subject and a good amount of replies, but less than half the upvotes/votes than there are replies, even though people are clearly enjoying the discussion. So, I was wondering if we'd be able to implement a feature that automatically votes for a post if you comment on it. Or, instead of forcing it, have a checkbox near the post form specifying whether or not you'd like to vote the post up upon completion of the comment. That might give good discussion posts some visibility instead of just posts that are a shitshow in the comments section
EDIT: I don't know what I'm talking about move along please
3 votes -
It’s time for the open source community to get real
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Black Mirror S2E02 "White Bear" discussion thread
Previous episode | Index thread | Next episode Black Mirror Season 2 Episode 2 - White Bear Victoria wakes up and cannot remember anything about her life. Everyone she encounters refuses to...
Previous episode | Index thread | Next episode
Black Mirror Season 2 Episode 2 - White Bear
Victoria wakes up and cannot remember anything about her life. Everyone she encounters refuses to communicate with her.
Warning: this thread contains spoilers about this episode! If you haven't seen it yet, please watch it and come back to this thread later.
You can talk about past episodes, but please don't discuss future episodes in this thread!
If you don't know what to say, here are some questions to get the discussion started:
- How does the title relate to the episode itself?
- Are there any similarities between real life events and the episode?
- Are there any references or easter eggs in the episode, such as references to past episodes?
Please rate the episode here!
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Claire Saffitz makes homemade ice cream sandwiches | From the Test Kitchen
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Recommendations for a great podcast? What are you listening to?
I am a big CGP Grey fan and have recently been diving into 'Hello Internet' and 'Cortex' and really I love both of them. I have never been much of a podcast listener until recently, but I do enjoy...
I am a big CGP Grey fan and have recently been diving into 'Hello Internet' and 'Cortex' and really I love both of them.
I have never been much of a podcast listener until recently, but I do enjoy some of the stuff NPR puts out (like Radiolab).
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'Fly Girls' tells the early history of women in aviation
3 votes -
California wildfires: Verizon throttled data during crisis
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Web serial recommendations
Is anyone else here into web serials or serial fiction more generally? I was first introduced to the medium through Worm, probably the most well-known web serial out there at this point, and I...
Is anyone else here into web serials or serial fiction more generally? I was first introduced to the medium through Worm, probably the most well-known web serial out there at this point, and I loved it. (Well, okay, if we're getting technical I was probably first introduced to it through fanfiction, but it didn't register to me then that this was a medium used by original works as well.) I've worked my way through a few other serials since reading Worm, and I've continued to enjoy the format. Does anyone have recommendations for web serials (or printed serials!) they like?
For me, I'm currently reading Hate Would Suffice, a story about a teenager and a world frozen in ice. It updates almost daily with chapters around a thousand words long, and while it's a pretty new one I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far.
6 votes -
Ring theory: The hidden artistry of the Star Wars prequels
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An ISP based in Texas has complained to a judge that the music industry to trying to turn internet providers into the "copyright police"
16 votes -
Geto Boys - Mind Playing Tricks On Me (1991)
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Benefit of not having downvotes: I can say that I enjoy The Phantom Menace
while its not the best star wars movie, it isn't the abomination that people make it out to be. its legitimately fun to watch and comfy with all its bad CGI. Favorite star wars movies in order:...
while its not the best star wars movie, it isn't the abomination that people make it out to be. its legitimately fun to watch and comfy with all its bad CGI.
Favorite star wars movies in order: IV, V, Solo, VII, I, VIII, VI, Rogue One, III, II
37 votes -
Invisible Separator
6 votes -
Lets discuss tags, again
There's been some discussion around tags since users were given tag-editing privileges, such as Tag Use and Article Tags I've noticed a few things about tags and rather than make a topic for each...
There's been some discussion around tags since users were given tag-editing privileges, such as Tag Use and Article Tags
I've noticed a few things about tags and rather than make a topic for each one I thought I'd make a few top level comments instead, hopefully with others doing the same for anything tag related they'd like to see discussed.
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What artists do you wish would go back to their roots/an older sound of theirs?
What band that you like/used to like makes you wish they would go back to what they used to do? Personally, I wish Maroon 5 would put out more stuff like Songs About Jane. They had a really chill,...
What band that you like/used to like makes you wish they would go back to what they used to do? Personally, I wish Maroon 5 would put out more stuff like Songs About Jane. They had a really chill, jazz-y, very Jamiroquai-esque sound that I dig the hell out of but now Levine's dedicated to pop music full time.
Hardmode: No Weezer
24 votes -
Sheever's story
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The Vikings have agreed to terms with former Bengals safety George Iloka on a 1-year deal. A big addition to their DB room, the kind you rarely find in August.
@rapsheet: Done deal: The #Vikings have agreed to terms with former #Bengals S George Iloka on a 1-year deal. A big addition to their DB room, the kind you rarely find in August.
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What have you been listening to this week?
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! Feel free to give recs or discuss anything about each others'...
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something!
Feel free to give recs or discuss anything about each others' listening habits.
You can make a chart if you use last.fm:
http://www.tapmusic.net/lastfm/
Remember that linking directly to your image will update with your future listening, make sure to reupload to somewhere like imgur if you'd like it to remain what you have at the time of posting.
23 votes -
Gospels of giving for the new gilded age: Are today’s donor classes solving problems—or creating new ones?
8 votes -
US reviewing El Salvador relationship after Taiwan break
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Only you can prevent gross, smelly fatbergs from clogging up city sewers, says inspector
7 votes -
Venezuela and Trinidad struck by massive, 7.3 magnitude earthquake
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The most forgotten rule of Tildes, and why I'm leaving
I considered sending this only as a PM to Deimos, but since it actually involves the community and Deimos has no real control over it, I think it's better suited as a public post. Users are always...
I considered sending this only as a PM to Deimos, but since it actually involves the community and Deimos has no real control over it, I think it's better suited as a public post.
Users are always quick to point to the "paradox of tolerance" clause in the Tildes vision:
Tildes will not be a victim of the paradox of tolerance; my philosophy is closer to "if your website's full of assholes, it's your fault".
But I believe there's an even more important clause, right in the actual Tildes Docs:
If people treat each other in good faith and apply charitable interpretations, everyone's experience improves. (emphasis mine)
A lot of users here, including some well-known power users, are quick to call "Hate!" where there is no actual hate. Controversial statements are quickly interpreted to their most extreme. Yes, there have been some hateful incidents here and I won't deny that, but a lot of well-meaning discussions are lumped into the mix and shut down because they might lead to hate or because they are associated with hate.
Honest discussions, political or otherwise, can't be had in a climate like this. Echo chamber, hivemind, circlejerk... call it whatever, but that's where things are heading.
For the record, I absolutely agree with this part of the Tildes vision, as written by Deimos:
I believe that it's possible to support the ability to freely discuss important and controversial topics without also being obligated to allow threats, harassment, and hate speech.
Threats, harassment, and hate speech have no place anywhere. But sadly, instead of supporting controversial topics as written, it seems certain topics will have no place here because they are controversial. Tildes right now is not the Tildes we were promised, and seems to be veering further away by the day.
If this is the Tildes everyone wants, that's fine of course. But to me, it's no better than Reddit.
46 votes -
China’s new frontiers in dystopian tech
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Is there a way to quickly get to users or do I have type their name out in a comment or post?
Thanks
3 votes -
Brexit stage left: Spending cuts and British strategic denial
9 votes -
What it's like being the editor of a newspaper in Eve Online
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'We The Animals' Becomes A Film, And The Author Approves
2 votes -
US vows to grant few waivers on Iran sanctions
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World's largest shipping company heads into Arctic as global warming opens the way
14 votes -
Hawaii braces for Hurricane Lane, now a category 5
13 votes