44 votes

Anyone having trouble using their invites? People just don't seem interested

I'm a member of the shroomery, which has some questionable members so I'm not giving out the invites to random people there, but the people ive reached out to in PM dont seem Interested

Also my discord group, ive offered invites and no bites

Anyone else finding not much interest in this site?

95 comments

  1. [52]
    cfabbro
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    Tildes is a bit of an odd looking duck, and probably only appeals to oldschool forum and old.reddit users. Some of our policies also rub certain people (esp absolute free speech advocates) the...

    Tildes is a bit of an odd looking duck, and probably only appeals to oldschool forum and old.reddit users. Some of our policies also rub certain people (esp absolute free speech advocates) the wrong way too. And I also think that the vast majority of people simply don't care what reddit is doing with their API, since it doesn't effect them. So it honestly doesn't surprise me that most people aren't interested in invites.

    I wish more people were aware of Tildes, so people who actually would be interested in a site such as ours will be able to find it. But even offering invites and having them rejected/ignored is helping spread that awareness. So don't worry too much, and thanks for trying. :)

    95 votes
    1. [26]
      venn177
      Link Parent
      It's certainly fun to have a place that has the old-school web mentality when it comes to content and interaction, but without the 'free speech' and bigotry and racism and etc that comes with it....

      Some of our policies also rub certain people (esp absolute free speech advocates) the wrong way too.

      It's certainly fun to have a place that has the old-school web mentality when it comes to content and interaction, but without the 'free speech' and bigotry and racism and etc that comes with it.

      I think Tildes is a goldilocks website for a very specific subset of people, and that's all I've ever really wanted.

      88 votes
      1. [15]
        Amarok
        Link Parent
        Adults. We call those people adults.

        Adults. We call those people adults.

        83 votes
        1. [14]
          AintAintAWord
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          Wait, are you telling me there are other ways to have online discussions that don't involve personal insults?

          Wait, are you telling me there are other ways to have online discussions that don't involve personal insults?

          31 votes
          1. [13]
            Good_Apollo
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            Eh I've had comments removed that were civil. You're not allowed to have any dissenting opinions here, even if you agree with 99.9% of the site. Kind of sucks but I've learned to just lurk here...

            Eh I've had comments removed that were civil. You're not allowed to have any dissenting opinions here, even if you agree with 99.9% of the site. Kind of sucks but I've learned to just lurk here more than anything because of it.

            Reddit goes the other way of course and only recently started to get rid of the problem subs but I think too much control is also annoying. There's a middle ground but Tildes ain't it which to the OP's point is probably why some people get turned off.

            It does contribute to the old school feel of the forum days though. Back then moderators were extremely candid about ruling with an iron fist and you were either in the club or you got silenced. Tildes apes that feeling exactly.

            11 votes
            1. [12]
              Deimos
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              Other than your comment yesterday that was removed as part of the back-and-forth with one of the banned users that I removed entirely, you haven't had a comment removed in over 2 years. And even...
              • Exemplary

              Other than your comment yesterday that was removed as part of the back-and-forth with one of the banned users that I removed entirely, you haven't had a comment removed in over 2 years. And even then, your removed ones were things like off-topic comments in a "new group requests" thread saying Tildes is basically a "woke safe space" because you weren't allowed to argue about eugenics.

              This is exactly what I'm talking about with people being disingenuous about moderation and their own behavior.

              96 votes
              1. [3]
                venn177
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                I understand 100% that this doesn't contribute to the discussion at all, but I think I speak for a lot of people when I say "lmfao".

                And even then, your removed ones were things like off-topic comments in a "new group requests" thread saying Tildes is basically a "woke safe space" because you weren't allowed to argue about eugenics.

                I understand 100% that this doesn't contribute to the discussion at all, but I think I speak for a lot of people when I say "lmfao".

                65 votes
                1. [2]
                  Rien
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                  Many people have their identity tied to being in the right and have grown up in an internet debate mindset. So they latch on to an objective truth in their mind (like free speech, gender norms, or...

                  Many people have their identity tied to being in the right and have grown up in an internet debate mindset. So they latch on to an objective truth in their mind (like free speech, gender norms, or in this case eugenics) and see any opportunity to "debate" as a chance to validate how they're smarter than the masses.

                  It's like being a high schooler that's read Ayn Rand for the first time. Everything makes sense suddenly because self reliance is the morale truth, but they conveniently forget about the systems in place for them to succeed in the first place (public education, roads, hospitals, fire departments, any infrastructure in general). And now equipped with this newfound knowledge they have to preach about how everything can be solved by only self-reliance. Any argument against is met with "you just don't get it" while if they're ignored then they're "being silenced". No, you're not being persecuted, your discussion is just a waste of time.

                  Anyway, I paid the long-form discussion tax so I can say guilt free: lolol get rekt

                  5 votes
                  1. venn177
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                    You're my hero, and I want to be you when I grow up.

                    You're my hero, and I want to be you when I grow up.

                    1 vote
              2. [2]
                Good_Apollo
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                I would rather not argue with you like I did in the past, I'd rather just stay silent. You are candid and unapologetic about your moderation style, I will give you that.

                I would rather not argue with you like I did in the past, I'd rather just stay silent. You are candid and unapologetic about your moderation style, I will give you that.

                7 votes
                1. teaearlgraycold
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                  Deimos does a good job. You're not allowed to have a dissenting opinion when the dissenting opinion is too far out of bounds, and that's good because certain things don't need to be argued for.

                  Deimos does a good job. You're not allowed to have a dissenting opinion when the dissenting opinion is too far out of bounds, and that's good because certain things don't need to be argued for.

                  42 votes
              3. [6]
                teaearlgraycold
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                I know there is some idea of open moderation in the Tildes ethos - like the mod log for topics. What do you think about that expanding to comments? I understand someone could post something like...

                I know there is some idea of open moderation in the Tildes ethos - like the mod log for topics. What do you think about that expanding to comments? I understand someone could post something like shock content, and we don’t want that even buried in a log. But we could put everything else in plain sight.

                I’m imagining the scenario would play out much better and without need for you to dig up the history manually. A disgruntled user might complain about their comment thread getting nuked. Then any user could ask which one they are talking about. Either the thread gets shared and we can shame the user for misrepresenting the situation, or it doesn’t and we know they can’t handle any community review of their behavior.

                10 votes
                1. [5]
                  Deimos
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                  I'm not sure. People will always try to push for more transparency in moderation, but it's not always better. I think I've been too transparent with some moderation decisions in the past, and it...

                  I'm not sure. People will always try to push for more transparency in moderation, but it's not always better. I think I've been too transparent with some moderation decisions in the past, and it ended up just causing a disproportionate amount of issues and drama. It's definitely a balance, but it's not simple to decide where the correct point is.

                  I absolutely still wouldn't want to leave the original removed comments available though—that makes it so you're not even really removing them any more, just making it a little more inconvenient for people to read them. It could also be a violation of things like the GDPR if you were preventing users from being able to edit or delete some of their posts.

                  6 votes
                  1. [4]
                    vektor
                    Link Parent
                    I agree with this, but also, it's similarly iffy to delete people's posts outright, seeing as they are the only existing copy of their copyright-protected work. Especially considering the effort...

                    It could also be a violation of things like the GDPR if you were preventing users from being able to edit or delete some of their posts.

                    I agree with this, but also, it's similarly iffy to delete people's posts outright, seeing as they are the only existing copy of their copyright-protected work. Especially considering the effort some people put into their posts. I'd hate for a 3-page essay to get burned because someone in a neighboring comment set the whole thread on fire. That doesn't mean the essay has to stay up, but I think at least the author should have access to it. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a legal obligation in some countries to do such a thing. If I'm reading the german law right, that might actually be the case.

                    I also fully understand that that's not a development priority right now, but I think it'd be the right thing to do. Maybe deleting a post automatically triggers a direct message to the account holder with the post text and a notice that it was deleted? That means we're not destroying the work, but simultaneously the post doesn't stay up. Also sounds like it could be easy to implement.

                    It is of course orthogonal to the issue of an audit trail. For that matter, I could imagine that the copy contained in the audit trail could still be deleted by the author, but it'd be treated as a "guilty plea". It'd satisfy their right to be forgotten, their copyright protections, and even from a "quasi-legal" perspective it makes sense to me that if the "accused" removes evidence from the equation to use that against them. From the outside it would look like "oh, the person who's crying about being banned unfairly deleted their posts afterwards? Was it that bad what they said?" This paragraph is of course contingent on whether we want an audit trail.

                    Cue one of the OGs like cfabbro or NaraVara telling me why my thought process might be sound but I haven't considered well known edge case X.

                    1. [3]
                      Deimos
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                      Removed posts already do stay visible to their authors, both from their own user page, as well as while viewing the topic where they were posted. They have a bold and red (or whatever the...

                      Removed posts already do stay visible to their authors, both from their own user page, as well as while viewing the topic where they were posted. They have a bold and red (or whatever the "warning" color is in that theme) indicator on them that says something like "This comment has been removed and is not visible to other users".

                      3 votes
                      1. [2]
                        vektor
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                        Oh interesting. Is that new? I'm fairly certain I tried to look up what I had written back during... the incident and couldn't really make heads nor tails of the situation. Either that was because...

                        Oh interesting. Is that new? I'm fairly certain I tried to look up what I had written back during... the incident and couldn't really make heads nor tails of the situation. Either that was because I was missing context from other users' comments, or that was not a thing 2 years ago. (Edit: After a mostly-pleasant trip down memory lane, towards a more unpleasant end I found the comments I was talking about. They're still there for me, just the context is missing, making them extremely confusing. These comments are however partially invisible within the thread, because while I can see my top-level comment easily, and I can see how many replies I received, any replies I wrote to those replies are no longer visible for me from within the thread.)

                        In any case, judging by some other discussions, I'm assuming banned people can't access their account at all, not even to review their own posts?

                        1 vote
                        1. Deimos
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                          Ah yeah, I think I remember some issues with how they display when a whole thread of comments is removed. That would definitely be good to fix, but it's also a very rare case that affects few...

                          Ah yeah, I think I remember some issues with how they display when a whole thread of comments is removed. That would definitely be good to fix, but it's also a very rare case that affects few users.

                          And yes, banned users can't log in at all. They can always email me if they want their posts deleted or anything though (and multiple banned users have done this).

                          4 votes
      2. [8]
        kallisti
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        I think it's funny when the "free speech" crowd think "old-school" web means completely unmoderated cesspits because it basically tips their hand that they were likely just posting on 4chan or...

        I think it's funny when the "free speech" crowd think "old-school" web means completely unmoderated cesspits because it basically tips their hand that they were likely just posting on 4chan or similar. My experience of the old web was some of the most strictly moderated sites I've ever taken part on, sometimes even to their detriment. Some examples that spring to mind were extremely strictly enforced no-politics/no-religion rules, aggressive wordfiltering, and ofc the almost mandatory laundry list of signature/avatar restrictions.

        46 votes
        1. JoylessAubergine
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          It's one of those things that outs people as younger internet users who only really know 4chan through /pol/ or through what they've heard. 4chan, from the very beginning, through peak /b/ and...

          It's one of those things that outs people as younger internet users who only really know 4chan through /pol/ or through what they've heard. 4chan, from the very beginning, through peak /b/ and meme culture, Chanology, Anonymous, etc to /pol/ and since is not a "free speech" zone and never has been. Even /b/ has rules. It's rules are often less decorum based than most forums but you could and did get banned at the discretion of Janitors.

          18 votes
        2. [3]
          gpl
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          I subscribe to the Dorian Grey theory of old web forums in which every forum had one thread, hundreds of pages long and multiple years old, in which users would argue their heads off and be civil...

          I subscribe to the Dorian Grey theory of old web forums in which every forum had one thread, hundreds of pages long and multiple years old, in which users would argue their heads off and be civil elsewhere on the site. The thread acted to contain peoples worst behaviors and made the site overall better. On the forum I was a part of it was called “The Basement” and was (still is) the most active thread on the forum.

          15 votes
          1. Amarok
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            We had a 'Flames and Rants' section for that on my old phpBB forum (about Tildes size at peak), prefaced with the label 'everything herein is 100% BS'. I forced people to add themselves to the...

            We had a 'Flames and Rants' section for that on my old phpBB forum (about Tildes size at peak), prefaced with the label 'everything herein is 100% BS'. I forced people to add themselves to the group if they wanted to see it or post there, making them acknowledge that it was a fully uncensored, unmoderated space.

            People had to opt-in to the pain. The flames there were insanely uncivil, and I was one of the nastiest of the bunch because I was 19 at the time and smack talk is best saved for competitive gaming. EQ was hyper-competitive.

            It became about 60% of the board's traffic. People would vent about crazy random shit, and all of the EQ guild politics were in full force there. Glorious five hundred page flamewars. The rest of the board - a dozen sub-forums - stayed remarkably civil. People knew if they wanted to start some shit, there was just the one spot for it, and not to fuck around in the other boards. One of those other sub forums was for political discussion and it was also pretty civil - of course that was before politics became what it is today, pre 9/11 vs post-trump.

            I don't quite understand how this works, but I think that maybe there is a way to have a 'rant' forum be a part of a civil discussion space. I just don't quite grok how to get there, and I don't know if it eventually contaminates the rest of the site or not - sometimes it does, but I don't know if that's an inevitability, because it did not kill our EQ forum. WoW did that.

            We were also the only - out of dozens - EQ server to have 'the ragefire list.' If you were a cleric, you got in line to get your 'epic weapon' (which is free resurrection spells - you want every cleric on your server to have one). We made sure everyone who was ready to kill ragefire got that epic and the entire server co-ordinated to help them get it. Ragefire spawned once a week, and EQ did not have 'instancing' - everyone competed for it, but we did not. That was unique to our server and I'm kinda proud of it. Getting rezzes was so easy on our server it made the rest of them jealous.

            It's still in the wayback machine. Look at the view numbers vs the other forums. Not many snapshots of it exist, that server ran for years and those are early days but I think you get the idea.

            9 votes
          2. R51
            Link Parent
            The shitposting has to be done somewhere........

            The shitposting has to be done somewhere........

            5 votes
        3. [2]
          rickartz
          Link Parent
          Some of the subs best regarded in the place we should not name were moderated the same way, like askhistorians or anime_titties.

          Some of the subs best regarded in the place we should not name were moderated the same way, like askhistorians or anime_titties.

          14 votes
          1. R51
            Link Parent
            never expected to see those two subs so close together

            never expected to see those two subs so close together

            4 votes
        4. chocobean
          Link Parent
          I started using IRC when I was 10. (It was a cesspit in a different way that you figure out quite quickly when one is a female child.) Indeed most of the channels were run extremely ruthlessly....

          I started using IRC when I was 10. (It was a cesspit in a different way that you figure out quite quickly when one is a female child.) Indeed most of the channels were run extremely ruthlessly. (Especially places you can download anime from--but I came into those a little later in fairness to this story.)

          Mods were very happy to kick and ban - one was expected to read the rules at light speed and they are all different rules everywhere. I've been temp kicked for not changing my handle to something quick enough, kicked for using certain acronyms or abbreviations, for not typing in a certain colour, to name a few. They were tiny kingdoms each with their only tiny despots.

          Aahh, yes message boards and signature / avatar rules.....

          5 votes
      3. Spydrchick
        Link Parent
        I'm new here and just kind of feeling my way around. I love the old school feel and the genuine discussion and comments. I would say there is a respect you don't necessarily find any more. Outside...

        I'm new here and just kind of feeling my way around. I love the old school feel and the genuine discussion and comments. I would say there is a respect you don't necessarily find any more.

        Outside a few of my trusted subs on reddit there was just such juvenille engagement you had to wonder how many users were in high school. And even then there was troll activity. Glad to have found a place where there is an air of decorum. Still not sure how this fits in to my daily internet engagememt, but already it feels familiar. So glad it was recommended.

        33 votes
      4. Marukka
        Link Parent
        Tildes is very much like the reddit that I found over a decade ago. I have missed a place like this so, so much.

        I think Tildes is a goldilocks website for a very specific subset of people, and that's all I've ever really wanted.

        Tildes is very much like the reddit that I found over a decade ago. I have missed a place like this so, so much.

        25 votes
    2. [12]
      Comment deleted by author
      Link Parent
      1. [8]
        Deimos
        (edited )
        Link Parent
        Which is kind of impressive, because I've banned a grand total of 4 people in the last week, despite thousands of new registrations. Unsurprisingly, when you ban annoying people trying to cause...

        what currently is spreading the most awarness must be the amount of "I got banned from tildes" kind of posts. I haven't checked reddit much in the last days but I just stumbled over the 3rd post within the last 24hrs.

        Which is kind of impressive, because I've banned a grand total of 4 people in the last week, despite thousands of new registrations. Unsurprisingly, when you ban annoying people trying to cause drama, they go be annoying and dramatic somewhere else (while being disingenuous or explicitly lying about what they did, naturally).

        I mostly think it's unfortunate that places like /r/RedditAlternatives are getting so much "genuine" traffic right now. Places like that have always been filled with users who are mostly trying to find "alternatives" because their awful behavior has gotten them banned from so many subreddits. They'll upvote and pile onto any story about someone claiming to be oppressed by moderators, it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

        89 votes
        1. [3]
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          1. [2]
            sparksbet
            Link Parent
            this is what the kids these days call "copium". They're already banned and they're pissed about that, but "actually I never wanted to be on that stupid site anyway!" It's like guys who call you a...

            the most absurd thing is that they seem to be so upset to get banned from a site they at the same time seem to not want to be part of in the first place.

            this is what the kids these days call "copium". They're already banned and they're pissed about that, but "actually I never wanted to be on that stupid site anyway!" It's like guys who call you a slut when you reject them.

            20 votes
            1. Amarok
              Link Parent
              What an efficient term. I like it.

              What an efficient term. I like it.

              6 votes
        2. [3]
          beardedchimp
          Link Parent
          Do you remember voat and its explosion after the reddit banwave of subreddits like fatpeoplehate. That place was pure white supremacy, it was unreal how truly awful nearly every comment was. After...

          Do you remember voat and its explosion after the reddit banwave of subreddits like fatpeoplehate.

          That place was pure white supremacy, it was unreal how truly awful nearly every comment was. After reddits actions they had massively promoted the site and so all of the hate subreddits that were banned flocked there.

          It was almost as if you were asking only the worst people on the internet to sign up. The last thing you want for a constructive community is to entice such people in.

          19 votes
          1. [2]
            MonkeyFeathers
            Link Parent
            The only good thing to come out of Voat was when T_D announced that they were moving there and then not receiving the warm welcome they were expecting. They came running back with the tail between...

            The only good thing to come out of Voat was when T_D announced that they were moving there and then not receiving the warm welcome they were expecting. They came running back with the tail between their legs in no time.

            10 votes
            1. beardedchimp
              Link Parent
              I remember that it was hilarious. They weren't racist enough for voat, which really shows you how unbelievably bad that site was.

              I remember that it was hilarious. They weren't racist enough for voat, which really shows you how unbelievably bad that site was.

              6 votes
        3. MonkeyFeathers
          Link Parent
          I've also seen people just flat out lie about being banned, and having their posts or comments removed, usually in subs that will just unconditionally believe them because they dislike your sub....

          I've also seen people just flat out lie about being banned, and having their posts or comments removed, usually in subs that will just unconditionally believe them because they dislike your sub. You call them out and half the sub still downvotes you because it doesn't fit their narrative.

          8 votes
        4. guts
          Link Parent
          What I have read (two today), seems users dislike the lack of no reasons of the ban. I am of those users who post on r/redditalternatives but not because I have awful behavior.

          What I have read (two today), seems users dislike the lack of no reasons of the ban. I am of those users who post on r/redditalternatives but not because I have awful behavior.

          4 votes
      2. [2]
        cfabbro
        Link Parent
        This isn't the first time that's happened... and I doubt it will be the last. As @Algernon_Asimov so aptly put it:

        This isn't the first time that's happened... and I doubt it will be the last. As @Algernon_Asimov so aptly put it:

        Every single banned person in the history of the internet was banned for "no reason". Naturally. Because noone is the villain in their own story.

        36 votes
        1. miyu
          Link Parent
          I will add that for select subreddits, it's 100% the case that hundreds if not thousands of people can get banned per month for extremely poor reasons, having been part of the mod team of a few...

          I will add that for select subreddits, it's 100% the case that hundreds if not thousands of people can get banned per month for extremely poor reasons, having been part of the mod team of a few political 500k-1m subs and unsuccessfully attempting to change the culture from within... There is certainly crossfire in those scenarios, but simply not enough time for moderators to sift through the BS to dish out unbans.

          In 2020 we had a very blunt top-mod decree, that I half understand but find extremely unhealthy: opinions aren't changed; politics is about your side out-mobilizing the other side, not converting those who disagree with you. Ban liberally.

          There are certainly a lot of situations where people cry wolf, and then there are communities they are legitimately heavily censored to create political forces shaped by their moderators.

          8 votes
      3. Grimalkin
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        Link Parent
        I just read the top post on r/redditalternatives about Tildes and it's full of assumptions and so much anger. It's as if they need be pissed off and will find some way, any way to feel it no...

        I just read the top post on r/redditalternatives about Tildes and it's full of assumptions and so much anger. It's as if they need be pissed off and will find some way, any way to feel it no matter what. It's so sad and unncessary.

        21 votes
    3. [7]
      lyam23
      Link Parent
      It's an interesting place for sure. Of all of the various alternatives floated, the quality of the conversation and the overall tone seems to align more closely with metafilter than it does...

      It's an interesting place for sure. Of all of the various alternatives floated, the quality of the conversation and the overall tone seems to align more closely with metafilter than it does reddit. Only the functionality bears a passing resemblance to reddit and even there only superficially.

      Lemmy's tone is more closely aligned to reddit's in my (rather short) time with the site. I think there's a place for both as they serve different use cases... I'd say Tildes encourages long form engagement with a moderated/adult tone, Lemmy is a little more wild west (depending on the server) with more image macros, memes, and videos. The tone skews younger and more reddit like.

      13 votes
      1. [2]
        Monthly_Vent
        Link Parent
        I'm on lemmy and I would say, yeah, it really depends on the type of server. The one I'm in is actually a lot more thought-provoking than tildes (think the discussions you see with leftist video...

        I'm on lemmy and I would say, yeah, it really depends on the type of server. The one I'm in is actually a lot more thought-provoking than tildes (think the discussions you see with leftist video essayists) to the point I find it hard to be casual. It's weird, I don't see tildes being a casual site, but in comparison to the lemmy instance I'm in it feels a lot more chilled-out than my instance. But at the same time, it feels like reddit in that it's still encourages post interaction rather than comment interaction if that makes any sense. So most of my time on lemmy is seen scrolling one or two comments down and not going further, because I know that once I go further I'll hit comments I've already read but said better above.

        And yeah, it also skews younger. I feel like a lot of them have trouble with differing opinions and that gets frustrated sometimes, especially when it isn't warranted (like in a vent post.)

        7 votes
        1. [2]
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          1. Monthly_Vent
            Link Parent
            Yeah sure! It's the Beehaw instance. I joined when it had like 600 users, and then the next day I woke up and they had almost 1k. Now they're reaching 2k, so when you apply it might take a while...

            Yeah sure! It's the Beehaw instance. I joined when it had like 600 users, and then the next day I woke up and they had almost 1k. Now they're reaching 2k, so when you apply it might take a while before you could actually join (you do have to explain why you want to join, though they're pretty lenient to who can and can't join. I wouldn't be worried about getting accepted in)

            Though I kind of am glad I joined. The moderators take their jobs very seriously, making sure their users are kept in check and it's a lot more of a serious atmosphere compared to other instances I've browsed for 5 seconds (not the best judge on that, so take my word with a grain of salt). A lot more politics than what you see on tildes, and a lot less STEM-focused too. You can browse the instance anonymously to get a feel for it if you like :)

            3 votes
      2. [5]
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        1. [2]
          lyam23
          Link Parent
          I ended up joining Beehaw which is apparently less wild-west than many. They seem to have a relatively high number of users and communities. I've been switching between Tildes and Beehaw...

          I ended up joining Beehaw which is apparently less wild-west than many. They seem to have a relatively high number of users and communities. I've been switching between Tildes and Beehaw throughout the day and have enjoyed the differences. I've spent more time engaging in discussions on Tildes while Beehaw has been more of a binge-scroll.

          I've also begun re-visiting my RSS subscriptions. It's been fun blowing the cobwebs off those feeds.

          13 votes
          1. Amarok
            Link Parent
            Maybe we should have a thread asking people to share their feeds, see what goodies are lurking in those old dustbins.

            Maybe we should have a thread asking people to share their feeds, see what goodies are lurking in those old dustbins.

            7 votes
        2. [2]
          Diesektor
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          Link Parent
          Isn't part of the "federated" concept that the website is hosted on user hardware? I could imagine taking all of reddits refugees could get outrageously expensive if that's the case

          but if I'm not mistaken they also already said that they actually not want to take in all the reddit refugees.

          Isn't part of the "federated" concept that the website is hosted on user hardware? I could imagine taking all of reddits refugees could get outrageously expensive if that's the case

          3 votes
          1. mount2010
            Link Parent
            I don't believe that's necessarily so. Fediverse servers can be on typical servers, if I'm not misunderstanding you. The idea is strength in numbers - if one instance is overloaded, simply head to...

            I don't believe that's necessarily so. Fediverse servers can be on typical servers, if I'm not misunderstanding you. The idea is strength in numbers - if one instance is overloaded, simply head to another which isn't. Enough instances and everyone can fit.

            1 vote
    4. [2]
      Monthly_Vent
      Link Parent
      I want to also add the fact that it's very... tech around here. I'm also in lemmy's beehaw instance and I came across a few ex-tildes around who talked about how they left tildes because it was...

      I want to also add the fact that it's very... tech around here. I'm also in lemmy's beehaw instance and I came across a few ex-tildes around who talked about how they left tildes because it was too STEM-heavy and would like there to be more non-STEM discussions. Although I will say they joined way before the current reddit migration we're seeing, so hopefully we'll open up with more non-STEM discussions for the long term. (I'm not even a week old on tildes.net so I can't say for certain, but I do think a lot of the promise for variety comes with if people will post things other than tech and politics months after this, not the discussions we're seeing in the short-term.)

      13 votes
      1. gpl
        Link Parent
        This is a persistent criticism of Tildes and it’s not without merit. Tildes is very STEM heavy, to the point that I make an active effort to post non-STEM content here despite that not being the...

        This is a persistent criticism of Tildes and it’s not without merit. Tildes is very STEM heavy, to the point that I make an active effort to post non-STEM content here despite that not being the majority of what I consume. I wish we could get more non-STEM communities in here but it’s a bit of a chicken and an egg scenario.

        9 votes
    5. Gopher
      Link Parent
      Shroomery is an old school forum, think it was created in 1999, I joined in 2009, I dont want to make a post there asking who wants an invite, because there are a few alt right people, it takes a...

      Shroomery is an old school forum, think it was created in 1999, I joined in 2009, I dont want to make a post there asking who wants an invite, because there are a few alt right people, it takes a lot to get banned there, but ive pm some folks who I know post nicely, and havnt heard back

      5 votes
    6. [4]
      guts
      Link Parent
      You can't give invite to any Redditor, there is a specific user profile Tildes is looking.

      You can't give invite to any Redditor, there is a specific user profile Tildes is looking.

      2 votes
      1. [2]
        cfabbro
        Link Parent
        You do realize that I am the /r/tildes mod that handles the invite request rounds, right? :P I hand them out to pretty much everyone who asks for them, unless they're a very obvious troll, bigot,...

        You do realize that I am the /r/tildes mod that handles the invite request rounds, right? :P

        I hand them out to pretty much everyone who asks for them, unless they're a very obvious troll, bigot, or spammer. But I simply don't have the time to thoroughly vet everyone who asks for an invite, nor would I want to. See my reasoning here (if you're curious): https://tildes.net/~tildes/15mz/tildes_invite_session_call_to_arms#comment-7wsk

        26 votes
        1. guts
          Link Parent
          Thanks I'll look into it.

          Thanks I'll look into it.

          4 votes
      2. Kitahara_Kazusa
        Link Parent
        Given the reddit account I asked for an invite on (not the same one with this name) I don't really think that's the case. That or my alt I made specifically to post edgy shit somehow qualifies, in...

        Given the reddit account I asked for an invite on (not the same one with this name) I don't really think that's the case. That or my alt I made specifically to post edgy shit somehow qualifies, in which case I'm a little more confused.

        3 votes
  2. [4]
    Adys
    Link
    With what's been happening at Reddit, there's a lot of people out there actively seeking invites to Tildes. Unless you have people you specifically think would be a good fit / benefit from a...

    With what's been happening at Reddit, there's a lot of people out there actively seeking invites to Tildes. Unless you have people you specifically think would be a good fit / benefit from a membership, I wouldn't bother doing explicit outreach to people who haven't asked for it.

    For the first time since I joined, I used up all of my invites and had to ask Deimos to get them refilled.

    33 votes
    1. [3]
      raze2012
      Link Parent
      I've given out maybe 3 invites in my tenure here, but I still seem to have 10 left. Do they refill overtime or was I really 3 for 3 on "I gave out a code but they never signed up?" Note that I...

      I've given out maybe 3 invites in my tenure here, but I still seem to have 10 left. Do they refill overtime or was I really 3 for 3 on "I gave out a code but they never signed up?"

      Note that I only really gave out codes when someone specifically asked me for one (and ofc they don't seem like they'd clash with the community. But none of the 3 seemed that way).

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        Adys
        Link Parent
        Deimos resets them for everyone sometimes.

        Deimos resets them for everyone sometimes.

        8 votes
        1. Amarok
          Link Parent
          Yes, and they don't 'add' by default either, might be worth pointing that out. So, if you have ten, and he tops everyone up at five, you still have ten. If you had two, now you have five again. On...

          Yes, and they don't 'add' by default either, might be worth pointing that out. So, if you have ten, and he tops everyone up at five, you still have ten. If you had two, now you have five again.

          On the other hand, if you have a nice community of thirty people somewhere else that are interested, you can PM Deimos directly and ask him to hit you with thirty codes. He probably will once he has time to finally read your message - even if we're in a cooloff period, because that right there is a Glengarry lead on good new users.

          7 votes
  3. dreadpiratered
    Link
    I'm personally not actively trying to recruit for Tildes. I've only offered a couple invites to a couple people I know through in person relationships that were directly talking about looking for...

    I'm personally not actively trying to recruit for Tildes. I've only offered a couple invites to a couple people I know through in person relationships that were directly talking about looking for an alternative to browsing Reddit, and not specifically a 1 to 1 reddit replacement.

    I'm new here, so any long term users correct me if I'm wrong but Tildes isn't trying to become the next reddit, nor is it trying to grow super quick. It's a pretty niche community that wants to keep its identity intact with a slower pace and more in depth and high effort discussion. That concept isn't one that is going to appeal to everyone, and that's probably for the best.

    21 votes
  4. [6]
    dainumer
    Link
    I'm seeing the opposite actually. Any post on r/RedditAlternatives mentioning Tildes is getting slammed with invite requests. Here's the most prominent one I found:...

    I'm seeing the opposite actually. Any post on r/RedditAlternatives mentioning Tildes is getting slammed with invite requests. Here's the most prominent one I found:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/145gv8w/tildesnet_has_seen_a_huge_jump_in_users_due_to/

    20 votes
    1. [2]
      CannibalisticApple
      Link Parent
      I mentioned in a reply to someone on another sub that Tildes is discussion-oriented, so not to expect the full reddit experience. I got flooded with replies asking if I had any invites, along with...

      I mentioned in a reply to someone on another sub that Tildes is discussion-oriented, so not to expect the full reddit experience. I got flooded with replies asking if I had any invites, along with three DMs and one chat request. Went to bed thinking it would die down. Nope, had like 5 more waiting hours later.

      I got my invite from commenting on RedditAlternatives, so I did point the people who DM'd and chat-requested me to post there. I hope some of the people who replied to me publically were seen by someone with an invite, particularly the person who asked "What is this paradise you speak of?"

      17 votes
      1. Amarok
        Link Parent
        That's the way to do it right there. The people who are a good fit for this place remember that once upon a time, the internet was heading in a different direction. They will want that again if...

        That's the way to do it right there. The people who are a good fit for this place remember that once upon a time, the internet was heading in a different direction. They will want that again if they see it.

        17 votes
    2. [3]
      gdp
      (edited )
      Link Parent
      That's funny. Someone should tell them they can request invites from the mysterious gray door, that's how I got here anyways

      That's funny. Someone should tell them they can request invites from the mysterious gray door, that's how I got here anyways

      9 votes
      1. [2]
        Deimos
        Link Parent
        Please don't tell them that, I already have far too many emails! It's not exactly hidden, there are multiple places people can easily figure that out if they put even minimal effort into finding...

        Please don't tell them that, I already have far too many emails! It's not exactly hidden, there are multiple places people can easily figure that out if they put even minimal effort into finding out how to register.

        35 votes
        1. Melvincible
          Link Parent
          It was pretty easy to find out how to request an invite via email. I appreciate you getting back to me so fast :) How nice to be able to connect with people amidst the chaos of reddit right now...

          It was pretty easy to find out how to request an invite via email. I appreciate you getting back to me so fast :) How nice to be able to connect with people amidst the chaos of reddit right now...

          7 votes
  5. [3]
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    1. iouapizza
      Link Parent
      Yeah, the one person I invited was actually interested in checking something new out, and I think they will take to it since I've seen the groups cover a pretty broad spectrum of interests.

      Yeah, the one person I invited was actually interested in checking something new out, and I think they will take to it since I've seen the groups cover a pretty broad spectrum of interests.

      5 votes
    2. Decoy321
      Link Parent
      I agree with this sentiment. It ensures that new arrivals have more of an investment into this community. We actively sought out joining here.

      I agree with this sentiment. It ensures that new arrivals have more of an investment into this community. We actively sought out joining here.

      5 votes
  6. McSquishin
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    I run a decent sized firearms discord server. I've offered invites to people there, but the lack of a firearms group here on tildes is a common point made. We could post stuff in hobbies, but...

    I run a decent sized firearms discord server. I've offered invites to people there, but the lack of a firearms group here on tildes is a common point made. We could post stuff in hobbies, but people can feel a certain way about firearms and I'm not trying to provoke any strong feelings.

    18 votes
  7. stu2b50
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    It is what it is. It's not a site for everyone. Honestly, I don't think Reddit is going anywhere, and for people in specific niches, this site probably won't be the best for them. For example, we...

    It is what it is. It's not a site for everyone. Honestly, I don't think Reddit is going anywhere, and for people in specific niches, this site probably won't be the best for them. For example, we have a couple of Diablo 4 threads, but those are filled with other people like me: casual players.

    If I'm looking for build discussion, or general meta talk, I don't want to hear from people like me, I want to hear from the super hardcore players that spend 18 hours a day on the game! You only get those with sufficient scale of userbase.

    17 votes
  8. [3]
    AriMaeda
    Link
    Assuming I'm understanding this right, you're PMing members out of the blue in a subreddit you're in? You're essentially being a door-to-door salesman, so it makes sense that the reception is...

    Assuming I'm understanding this right, you're PMing members out of the blue in a subreddit you're in? You're essentially being a door-to-door salesman, so it makes sense that the reception is cold; people don't tend to like solicitors!

    13 votes
    1. [2]
      Gopher
      Link Parent
      Not a subreddit tho, a small cozy discord and shroomery.org, but yes I'm sending to random people who I think post nicely and arnt too crazy

      Not a subreddit tho, a small cozy discord and shroomery.org, but yes I'm sending to random people who I think post nicely and arnt too crazy

      3 votes
      1. AriMaeda
        Link Parent
        It's very difficult to sell someone on something if they aren't looking to buy, even if you've got a close relationship with them. I had quite early access to Gmail when it was invite-only, and...

        It's very difficult to sell someone on something if they aren't looking to buy, even if you've got a close relationship with them.

        I had quite early access to Gmail when it was invite-only, and despite the massive step up in storage over free providers at the time (1 GB vs. 2 MB), the response to my solicited invites was lukewarm. Yet it wasn't hard to find corners of the 'net where people were practically begging for invites, or even having to compete with other users for the limited invites available.

        10 votes
  9. Amarok
    Link
    I only send out invites when someone asks for them. I won't bother pitching Tildes unless there's a conversation happening where Tildes is relevant. People don't like it when you try to sell them...

    I only send out invites when someone asks for them. I won't bother pitching Tildes unless there's a conversation happening where Tildes is relevant. People don't like it when you try to sell them a social media site.

    11 votes
  10. [2]
    oliak
    Link
    I’m very cautious with my invitations. For a few reasons but mostly because I only give them to people I’ve known and can actually vouch for not someone whose profile I briefly perused on Reddit.

    I’m very cautious with my invitations. For a few reasons but mostly because I only give them to people I’ve known and can actually vouch for not someone whose profile I briefly perused on Reddit.

    8 votes
    1. JCPhoenix
      Link Parent
      I've given one to an IRL friend, but I don't think he really comes around here. He did ask about Tildes the other day though, when we were discussion the reddit upheaval. When that one invitation...

      I've given one to an IRL friend, but I don't think he really comes around here. He did ask about Tildes the other day though, when we were discussion the reddit upheaval.

      When that one invitation thread on r/Tildes was getting slammed, I did give out a handful of invitations. I definitely didn't deepdive anyone's reddit profiles, but I ran them through RedditMetis and looked at recent comment history for recent and constant activity and the types of comments they were leaving. Account age and karma amounts as well.

      Probably won't give anymore out at this point, unless I know people personally and think they'd like an invitation because they're looking for a reddit alternative. We have enough new people here now that we need to settle in. I'd like to see what Tildes looks like in a few months or longer once everything settles down.

      5 votes
  11. [5]
    caninehere
    Link
    New user here who was offered an invite. I could have got an invite before now - been aware of Tildes since it started up. I think the problem was always a predictable one - lack of activity. I do...

    New user here who was offered an invite. I could have got an invite before now - been aware of Tildes since it started up. I think the problem was always a predictable one - lack of activity.

    I do think a lot of people are in a holding pattern right now re: what to do on the reddit issue. Many expect or believe that in a couple days the blackouts will mostly lift, nothing will change, and things will return to normal, giving them no reason to leave. Me personally, I'm re-evaluating how much time I spend on reddit and if Tildes or other sites could be an alternative. So this is me dipping my toe in -- but I expect if blackouts last longer, more people may be looking for invites and may hear about Tildes as a sort-of-alternative if they haven't already.

    8 votes
    1. [3]
      Amarok
      Link Parent
      I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and guess that if a lot of moderators of reddit take a couple of days off from moderating reddit, they are going to find out that when they come back,...

      I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and guess that if a lot of moderators of reddit take a couple of days off from moderating reddit, they are going to find out that when they come back, they hate moderating reddit. That's the slow sting of burnout creeping on them.

      It was unwise for reddit to give all of its mod teams this much time off, I think. That's going to have consequences.

      8 votes
      1. [2]
        caninehere
        Link Parent
        I dunno if I'd go that far but I do know a number of mods who are saying that without the mobile apps they use, they're no longer going to be modding. The workflow in the official reddit app is...

        I dunno if I'd go that far but I do know a number of mods who are saying that without the mobile apps they use, they're no longer going to be modding. The workflow in the official reddit app is garbage and nobody has any faith that reddit will or even can fix it. And moderating on desktop is made feasible by old reddit + modtoolbox. New reddit is a crap chute.

        A lot of mods may take this as an opportunity/excuse to reevaluate and possibly stop modding just as many users may take it as an opportunity to leave.

        Me personally, I think this whole situation has made it clear to me that reddit doesn't have a future w/ the path the company is going down, and I don't see that ever stopping. Even if it sticks around and is financially successful, it's going to change and it won't be a place I want to be.

        I do think the future of this kind of community based discussion is a nonprofit like Tildes that takes an approach similar to Wikipedia's.

        1 vote
        1. Amarok
          Link Parent
          I'm in the same boat. If the code isn't open source, and the company behind it isn't a non-profit, then it's a dead alternative to me before it even gets started. Any for profit company will do...

          I'm in the same boat. If the code isn't open source, and the company behind it isn't a non-profit, then it's a dead alternative to me before it even gets started. Any for profit company will do exactly as reddit has done eventually. Their investors will force them to.

          1 vote
    2. Raylamay
      Link Parent
      After what they’ve done to Christian (Apollo), I just can’t go back. I’m burning my account on the 30th when Apollo goes out. We had a good run!

      After what they’ve done to Christian (Apollo), I just can’t go back. I’m burning my account on the 30th when Apollo goes out. We had a good run!

      3 votes
  12. lou
    Link
    Randomly inviting people is unlikely to work. It's good practice to only send invites after someone showed they might be interested in it. "What I really want is a website that has <says a bunch...

    Randomly inviting people is unlikely to work. It's good practice to only send invites after someone showed they might be interested in it.

    "What I really want is a website that has <says a bunch of things Tildes already has>"
    "Tildes sounds right up your alley. Take a look: https://tildes.net/"
    "That looks great! Can I have an invite?"
    "Sure! Here you go! :D".

    Sends invite.

    8 votes
  13. Circa285
    Link
    I've not had any issues, but I also personally know the folks who I've invited.

    I've not had any issues, but I also personally know the folks who I've invited.

    6 votes
  14. jakemoney
    Link
    There are a lot of people on the outside looking in. I was one of them until I got my invite.

    There are a lot of people on the outside looking in. I was one of them until I got my invite.

    6 votes
  15. [11]
    central-dogma
    Link
    Do I have to wait for a certain amount of time to be able to generate invite codes?

    Do I have to wait for a certain amount of time to be able to generate invite codes?

    4 votes
    1. [8]
      cfabbro
      Link Parent
      There is no set schedule for users here to receive invites to send out. Deimos manually gives everyone a certain amount every once in a while. He gave everyone 5 invites a few days ago, but it...

      There is no set schedule for users here to receive invites to send out. Deimos manually gives everyone a certain amount every once in a while. He gave everyone 5 invites a few days ago, but it looks like you arrived just after that. :(

      6 votes
      1. [7]
        central-dogma
        Link Parent
        Thanks, appreciate it! It was the same when I joined BlueSky. Folks got a bunch of invites just before I joined (due to an internal error), so I think I just have bad timing.

        Thanks, appreciate it! It was the same when I joined BlueSky. Folks got a bunch of invites just before I joined (due to an internal error), so I think I just have bad timing.

        5 votes
        1. [6]
          Marukka
          Link Parent
          Um, do you have any invites for BlueSky?

          Um, do you have any invites for BlueSky?

          1. [5]
            central-dogma
            Link Parent
            Not at the moment.. they now give out 1 invite every two weeks

            Not at the moment.. they now give out 1 invite every two weeks

            1. [4]
              Marukka
              Link Parent
              Cool cool. Ty!

              Cool cool. Ty!

              1. [3]
                3rd_eye
                Link Parent
                I just checked and it I have one if you’re interested. None of my friends seem interested in BS

                I just checked and it I have one if you’re interested. None of my friends seem interested in BS

                1 vote
                1. [2]
                  Marukka
                  Link Parent
                  Yes please! Thank you so much!

                  Yes please! Thank you so much!

                  1 vote
                  1. 3rd_eye
                    Link Parent
                    No problem, PM sent!

                    No problem, PM sent!

                    2 votes
    2. EpicAglet
      Link Parent
      I'm wondering the same. I can't seem to generate invites

      I'm wondering the same. I can't seem to generate invites

      1 vote
    3. mycketforvirrad
      Link Parent
      Nope. It's completely random, as @Deimos hands them out every now and then.

      Nope. It's completely random, as @Deimos hands them out every now and then.

  16. rickartz
    Link
    Strange, someone gave me platinum on Reddit because they asked me for one invite and I did send him one. I don't mind, but it shows the user actually appreciated the gesture. Also, I don't have...

    Strange, someone gave me platinum on Reddit because they asked me for one invite and I did send him one. I don't mind, but it shows the user actually appreciated the gesture.

    Also, I don't have friends interested in anything remotely different to Facebook, so the only way to use my invites it's with people I don't know. I at least ran a light background check to ensure they weren't spammer or trolls.

    2 votes
  17. Hobbykitjr
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    I've got a few interested parties, but I don't have any to give out yet

    I've got a few interested parties, but I don't have any to give out yet

    1 vote
  18. [2]
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    1. oliak
      Link Parent
      Not bad at all. While there are two camps of thought about it here (the first essentially being that they wish it to remain small and quaint the second being that new lifeblood and breaking the...

      Not bad at all. While there are two camps of thought about it here (the first essentially being that they wish it to remain small and quaint the second being that new lifeblood and breaking the homogenous demographics should take precedent) and both are valid in their own ways.

      But most importantly, those are your invites to give out so allow your own values and conscience to guide how you use them.

      12 votes