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How to judge relative dangers of chemicals for someone too busy (or lazy) to keep up with the science?
I do hope one of you thinks of a better title or a more coherent structure for the overall post. This question was inspired by a comment chain about PFAS in Gore-Tex jackets under a different post...
I do hope one of you thinks of a better title or a more coherent structure for the overall post.
This question was inspired by a comment chain about PFAS in Gore-Tex jackets under a different post here, but it's been a bit of a simmering question for me.
When reading through that thread, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of the following.
Unless you're directing traffic in Seattle or Scotland, wouldn't the amount of time you'd wear the jacket be too little to have meaningful exposure? It's not like you're walking into an oven where the polymers would break down from heat. Further, if it's GoreTex-appropriate weather, you'll near-certainly have additional clothing between your skin and the GoreTex.
I was bored at work today, so I had plenty of time for rumination and introspection. What I found so far is that my instinctive skepticism toward health-conscious rhetoric has these primary sources:
- I listened to Stronger by Science's six-hour deep dive on aspartame. Their eventual conclusion is that aspartame does cause bladder cancer in rats & mice, but the equivalent doses for humans make fears over its use into a major nothingburger. A human would need to spend a year chugging down five gallons of Diet Coke each day for the elevated cancer risk to be statistically meaningful.
- When I catch someone trying to be convincing in an area where I lack domain expertise, I judge them by their overall demeanor and (if I can catch on) general rhetorical logic [in that order] long before I consider the truth of their specific claims. The IRL people I've met who are most stridently into wholesome natural living have fervency and lack of appreciation that it's the dose that makes the poison to the degree that it makes RFK discussing vaccine policy sound grounded in reality by comparison. Perhaps if they were born in a different society, they'd make excellent temple priests who ensure no lazy shortcuts or "it's all we have available" excuses are made when it's time to ensure a full harvest. Instead, they're the kinds who play 50 million questions and have genuine concerns that the radio waves that connect my wireless headphones are giving me brain damage or control. [To be fair, there is some large selection effects here. My hobbies have a habit of attracting those who are so open-minded that their brains fell out. Since online interactions strip the majority of demeanor and previous interactions, I judge online strangers with strange opinions way less harshly than IRL contacts unless they've gone out of their way to be obnoxious. IRL, I'm exposed to a lot more generic chemicals bad rhetoric than in my usual online bubbles. ]
- Based on 1, unless I have preexisting trust with a particular journalist, layman's science journalism—when it's performed by journalists dabbling in science rather than scientists trying their hands at public communication—is far too likely to overblow a headline or misrepresent the research conclusions. "Here are 30 links to news articles" doesn't appeal to me because 25 of them are probably copying each other (that's just how internet journalism works). It's highly unlikely that all 5 of the remaining links misread the original paper, but I'm not reading through all those (perhaps AI summarization could help here—at the very least it could identify commonalities and outliers for manual examination later).
- Related to 2, two additional SMBC comics that share my attitude: Vitamin Water v. Butter and Pronounceable Ingredients Only
That said, sometimes the health nuts are correct. As it turns out, all the coughing smokers do is a strong sign that smoking is bad for your lungs.
What are some heuristics to sort health tips that get passed around without citation into one of the following buckets?
- You'll notice the improvement
within a weekonce you've finished withdrawal. Smoking, boozing, eating meat or alliums at dinnertime, and heroin are in this bucket. - The effect is real and significant, but you may not notice the impact until at least a year has gone by, if ever. Seatbelts and bike/horse helmets are the two examples that immediately pop to mind.
- Technically non-zero, but ultimately trivial. The opening aspartame example would fit. In a similar line to doctors who recommend against treating prostate cancer because the treatments would shorten your lifespan by more than letting that cancer run its course and waiting for a heart attack or totally unrelated cancer to do you in, these interventions are meaningless to anyone who uses motor vehicles regularly.
- Playground rumors or outright disinformation. Vaccines causing autism and yellow 5 as an HRT supplement b/c it shrinks your testicles belong in this wastebin.
Circling back to the impact of PFAS in Gore-Tex that inspired today's thinking, my layman's estimate that the effects on the factory workers who make a career out of working with the stuff is a low 2 when following proper safety procedures. Without them, a definite 1. For wearers of the stuff, a solid 3.
One final reason I may have been so fired up on this topic is that I listened to a highlight reel from a Congressional
hearinground table on food & pharmaceutical safety last week. During the testimony, I had a nagging feeling that at least half of what they said was true, but the truth percent is below 75, and I had no idea which was which because all claims were presented with the same urgency.31 votes -
The best games of 2024, picked by NPR's staff
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Day 5: Print Queue
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/5 Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it...
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/5
Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it nicely, with the code collapsed by default inside an expandable section with syntax highlighting (you can replace
python
with any of the "short names" listed in this page of supported languages):<details> <summary>Part 1</summary> ```python Your code here. ``` </details>
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Weekly thread for casual chat and photos of pets
This is the place for casual discussion about our pets. Photos are welcome, show us your pet(s) and tell us about them!
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American parents are stealing their children’s identities to access debt
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Oatly loses right to call its drinks ‘milk’ in landmark UK ruling – lexical dispute with trade body Dairy UK argued slogan ‘Post Milk Generation’ was misleading to consumers
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How China became the world’s largest car exporter
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Hatari – Breadcrumbs (2024)
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Blue Zones are fraud, debunked
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Fedora moves towards Forgejo
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Caves of Qud releases version 1.0 today
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New industries come from crazy people
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Day 6: Guard Gallivant
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/6 Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it...
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/6
Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it nicely, with the code collapsed by default inside an expandable section with syntax highlighting (you can replace
python
with any of the "short names" listed in this page of supported languages):<details> <summary>Part 1</summary> ```python Your code here. ``` </details>
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BoxedWine is now on Xbox Dev Mode
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Seeing comments since last visit
So we can sort the new page by new activity, but I do not see any way to reference when that "new" is. The only reference on the front page I can see to there being new content is in threads I've...
So we can sort the new page by new activity, but I do not see any way to reference when that "new" is. The only reference on the front page I can see to there being new content is in threads I've already accessed - where I get a notification there are new comments in the thread. If I didn't access the thread, but come back later, there is no notification that there has been activity within that thread. The only date listed is when the thread was created, and not when last activity was had. Is there more I'm potentially missing to see when a thread was last active from the front page?
In that same vein, is there a way to mark a thread as "read" besides going into it after new comments have been made?
Asking for what I'm looking for in a different way: Is there a way to filter out comments since last visit? Eg on old forums, there were "activity since your last visit" links - basically exactly like how the notification system works here, but a thread-based system for all comments instead of a comment-based system that are only responses to you (and in both to get the notification gone, either you interact with it or mark it is read). Is there anything like that?
The wiki only seems to have how to find new comments within a thread itself, and not new comments site wide: https://tildes.net/~tildes.official/wiki/instructions/navigating_tildes
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California tsunami hazard area map
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Lies I was told about collaborative editing, Part 1: Algorithms for offline editing
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Do not buy NZXT | Predatory, evil rental computer scam investigated
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2024 Spotify Wrapped thread
What you got: Top 5 Artists Billie Eillish Lana Del Rey Addison Rae Sabrina Carpenter Dua Lipa Top 5 Songs: Aquamarine - Addison Rae CHIHIRO - Billie Eillish LUNCH - Billie Eillish Espresso -...
What you got:
Top 5 Artists
- Billie Eillish
- Lana Del Rey
- Addison Rae
- Sabrina Carpenter
- Dua Lipa
Top 5 Songs:
- Aquamarine - Addison Rae
- CHIHIRO - Billie Eillish
- LUNCH - Billie Eillish
- Espresso - Sabrina Carpenter
- National Anthem - Lana Del Rey
Minutes listened: 52,691
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Mount Eerie - Non-Metaphorical Decolonization (2024)
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How decentralized is Bluesky really?
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What have you been listening to this week?
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! If you've just picked up some music, please update on that as...
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! If you've just picked up some music, please update on that as well, we'd love to see your hauls :)
Feel free to give recs or discuss anything about each others' listening habits.
You can make a chart if you use last.fm:
http://www.tapmusic.net/lastfm/
Remember that linking directly to your image will update with your future listening, make sure to reupload to somewhere like imgur if you'd like it to remain what you have at the time of posting.
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RollerCoaster Tycoon was the last of its kind
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FIA seeks rule changes after president allegations
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The confusing reality of AI friends
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I made a formula for the Power of Friendship in Anime
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Disney’s Snow White | Official trailer
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Iceland has authorised whale hunting for the next five years, despite welfare concerns
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Archaeological dig at Notre-Dame unearths 2,000 years of history
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Putting numbers on projected increased energy demand from data centers
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What did you do this week (and weekend)?
As part of a weekly series, these topics are a place for users to casually discuss the things they did — or didn't do — during their week. Did you accomplish any goals? Suffer a failure? Do...
As part of a weekly series, these topics are a place for users to casually discuss the things they did — or didn't do — during their week. Did you accomplish any goals? Suffer a failure? Do nothing at all? Tell us about it!
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Introducing ChatGPT Pro
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A Man of Parts and Learning - The story behind a portrait of a black intellectual from the 1700s
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Tips for increasing online privacy (without going insane)?
I've been researching internet privacy and fell down the rabbit hole of...well, internet privacy. I started with deleting Facebook/Instagram and switching to fire fox + plugins. I would like to...
I've been researching internet privacy and fell down the rabbit hole of...well, internet privacy. I started with deleting Facebook/Instagram and switching to fire fox + plugins. I would like to make more improvements but I really have no idea how, it started with deleting socials and next thing you know I'm looking at LineageOS and de-googling.
If anyone has any suggestions on where to go next while staying realistic/not going crazy, i would love to hear them. I am not really sure where to set my expectations, basically I would like to have more control of my data. The other day Google photos gave me a memory recap which kind of creeped me out! I am suddenly not fond of whatever is going on under the surface of Google photos that's making collages and trying to sell my photo books. Also g-board giving me a pop up in the text prediction row asking me to rate the app??? Ew.
I am a fan of self hosting and run a small NAS (open media vault) but this too quickly turns into the privacy spiral and leaves me thinking I should throw my phone into a river and live in the forest. Would love to hear your thoughts/advice/opinions!
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You can watch a 1982 lecture by Grace Hopper
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‘Wicked’ named Best Picture by National Board of Review
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A freeze dryer is not a reasonable purchase
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Favorite quick play tabletop game recommendations
With Christmas around the corner I'm wondering if anyone has tabletop/card games they enjoy that are quick to play (in my mind less than 30 minutes). I enjoy longer games like Betrayal at House on...
With Christmas around the corner I'm wondering if anyone has tabletop/card games they enjoy that are quick to play (in my mind less than 30 minutes). I enjoy longer games like Betrayal at House on the Hill immensely, but I'd like to add some games to my collection that are fun and light hearted, easy to learn, and idealy travel easy. I often play games with family over the holidays and want some that aren't as intimidating for my parents and older relatives to pick up and try. I often played with at least 2 other people, but I've been looking for fun 2 player games as well.
Can you please share what the gameplay is like and what you enjoy about playing it? Thanks all!
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Offbeat Fridays – The thread where offbeat headlines become front page news
Tildes is a very serious site, where we discuss very serious matters like three cheers, fintech and tunnel of fudge. Tags culled from the highest voted topics from the last seven days, if anyone...
Tildes is a very serious site, where we discuss very serious matters like three cheers, fintech and tunnel of fudge. Tags culled from the highest voted topics from the last seven days, if anyone was alert.
But one of my favourite tags happens to be offbeat! Taking its original inspiration from Sir Nils Olav III, this thread is looking for any far-fetched
offbeat
stories lurking in the newspapers. It may not deserve its own post, but it deserves a wider audience!18 votes -
Save Point: A game deal roundup for the week of December 1
Add awesome game deals to this topic as they come up over the course of the week! Alternately, ask about a given game deal if you want the community’s opinions: e.g. “What games from this bundle...
Add awesome game deals to this topic as they come up over the course of the week!
Alternately, ask about a given game deal if you want the community’s opinions: e.g. “What games from this bundle are most worth my attention?”
Rules:
- No grey market sales
- No affiliate links
If posting a sale, it is strongly encouraged that you share why you think the available game/games are worthwhile.
All previous Save Point topics
If you don’t want to see threads in this series, add
save point
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Waymo outsources fleet operations to African fintech Moove in Phoenix and, soon, Miami
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Fitness Weekly Discussion
What have you been doing lately for your own fitness? Try out any new programs or exercises? Have any questions for others about your training? Want to vent about poor behavior in the gym? Started...
What have you been doing lately for your own fitness? Try out any new programs or exercises? Have any questions for others about your training? Want to vent about poor behavior in the gym? Started a new diet or have a new recipe you want to share? Anything else health and wellness related?
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Tildes Minecraft Survival Weekly
New Thread Server host: tildes.nore.gg (Running Java 1.21.1) Dynmap: https://tildes.nore.gg Playtime Tracker: https://tildes.nore.gg/playtimes.html Tildes website extension (shows online status &...
New Thread
Server host:
tildes.nore.gg
(Running Java 1.21.1)
Dynmap: https://tildes.nore.gg
Playtime Tracker: https://tildes.nore.gg/playtimes.html
Tildes website extension (shows online status & location): Firefox (Desktop and Android) - Chrome
Verification site: https://verify.tildes.nore.gg
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TildesMCPlugins and Data Packs
Data Packs:- Terralith - Overworld terrain upgrade
- Nullscape - End terrain upgrade
- Armor Statues [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Bat Membranes [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Cauldron Concrete [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Husks Drop Sand [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Mini Blocks [Vanilla Tweaks]
- More Mob Heads [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Player Head Drops [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Silence Mobs [Vanilla Tweaks]
- Wandering Trades [Vanilla Tweaks]
Plugins:
- Clickable Links - Makes http URLs in chat clickable (only for registered players)
- CoreProtect - Records all block/container/mob changes (Anyone can look up changes with
/co inspect
) - Dynmap - Adds a live web map
- EasyArmorStands - GUI for editing armor stands
- Hexnicks - Enables Tildes usernames to be displayed
- LuckPerms - Locks down unregistered users
- Nerfstick - Allows survival use of the
minecraft:debug_stick
item (requires admin to spawn in) - Rapid Leaf Decay - Increases the speed of leaf decay by 10x
- WorldEdit - Used for occasional admin stuff
- WorldGuard - Prevents unregistered users from changing anything in the world
The server operates on a soft whitelist. Anyone can log in and walk around, but you need a Tildes account to gain build access.
New Thread
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Nanowar of Steel - HelloWorld.java (Source Code Video) (2024)
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Crabs, crustaceans, and pain
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Day 4: Ceres Search
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/4 Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it...
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/4
Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it nicely, with the code collapsed by default inside an expandable section with syntax highlighting (you can replace
python
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AI is making Philippine call center work more efficient, for better and worse
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A bird flu pandemic would be one of the most foreseeable catastrophes in history (gifted link)
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Day 3: Mull It Over
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/3 Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it...
Today's problem description: https://adventofcode.com/2024/day/3
Please post your solutions in your own top-level comment. Here's a template you can copy-paste into your comment to format it nicely, with the code collapsed by default inside an expandable section with syntax highlighting (you can replace
python
with any of the "short names" listed in this page of supported languages):<details> <summary>Part 1</summary> ```python Your code here. ``` </details>
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