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5 votes
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Thoughts on highly regulated industry topics?
So, one of the things I deal with in my day to day are highly regulated industries (think guns and Legalized MJ), and I wonder where this will fit into Tildes itself. I did not see much in the ToU...
So, one of the things I deal with in my day to day are highly regulated industries (think guns and Legalized MJ), and I wonder where this will fit into Tildes itself.
I did not see much in the ToU in regards to this, so I wonder what governance we would be looking at?
Is it entirely what is legal in Canada? Because something may not be entirely legal in Canada, but the discussion of it would actually be perfectly legal.
I personally am someone looking for a migration from reddit, as it has become an unstable place for functional discussion.
4 votes -
Miike Snow - Genghis Khan (2016)
4 votes -
Tell me about your hobby!
What do you do in your free time? Teach me about something you love to do, maybe we'll get some ideas for future groups from here!
21 votes -
The princes, the president and the fortune seekers
3 votes -
The error messages in the register form could be more descriptive
When I tried to register an invalid username tildes told me that my username "did not match the requested format", but nowhere in that page there is a format specified for usernames. It'd be...
When I tried to register an invalid username tildes told me that my username "did not match the requested format", but nowhere in that page there is a format specified for usernames. It'd be useful to add near the username box a message like "use only alphanumeric characters".
4 votes -
'The Expanse' revived for season 4 at Amazon
10 votes -
Under Construction (and just getting started): Marble Track 3
5 votes -
NASA’s EM-drive is a magnetic WTF-thruster
8 votes -
Inside Theranos’ dysfunctional corporate culture
6 votes -
Request: API to fetch all comments including hierarchy relationship
Hello, I saw in another thread being mentioned that there is no use for API for real users other than bots. So wanted to voice some real API uses that I would be interested in: When I post a new...
Hello,
I saw in another thread being mentioned that there is no use for API for real users other than bots. So wanted to voice some real API uses that I would be interested in:
- When I post a new blog post, if I find it worthy of sharing here, it would be nice to mirror the comments I get here back on my blog post. I can imagine using API to fetch all the comments from a tildes thread, including the hierarchy relationship. The API would return a JSON with Markdown and/or HTML like the XML that Disqus exports (but JSON). When people want to comment on that post, they can come to tildes to do so, or if they don't want to create an account here, or if they don't have an invite, they can comment via other means that I have (Webmentions, Twitter, email).
- Second use is make something like hnrss possible.
4 votes -
Text rendering bug: Hyperlinked monospace text doesn't look like a hyperlink
This is the case at least on mobile, as that's only where I have tried to access Tildes. See the below hyperlinked monospace text.. it looks just like the unhyperlinked one. unhyperlinked hyperlinked
8 votes -
If there were a kind of a fireman's pole from the Moon down to the Earth, how long would it take to slide all the way from the Moon to the Earth?
10 votes -
Predatory behavior runs rampant in Facebook’s addiction support groups
4 votes -
Tech companies embark on a new apology tour
6 votes -
Screwing Your Vocal Minority
4 votes -
Basic comment anchor links added
This is more of a stop-gap than a real solution, but it's now at least possible to link to a specific comment. On each comment, on the right side of the header "stripe", there's a # that links to...
This is more of a stop-gap than a real solution, but it's now at least possible to link to a specific comment. On each comment, on the right side of the header "stripe", there's a
#
that links to that comment. It just uses an HTML anchor, so you're still linking to the full comments page, but it should scroll to the correct comment at least. You can also click the#
on a comment from your notifications page or a user's page to go directly to that comment.In the future we'll probably want to have a better view that highlights the linked comment more, and allows displaying context (the parent comments), but for now this should help a bit.
28 votes -
Boy Harsher - Pain (2014)
5 votes -
Jesse Roper - That Girl (2018)
5 votes -
Thoughts on handling political content on Tildes
(0) Background This is coming off a discussion in today's thread on forming new groups around whether or not to add a group for politics. I expressed there that, given my moderator experience on...
(0) Background
This is coming off a discussion in today's thread on forming new groups around whether or not to add a group for politics. I expressed there that, given my moderator experience on /r/ChangeMyView and /r/NeutralPolitics, I opposed making such a group given how Tildes currently stands.
(1) Political discussion is nearly always garbage.
I don't think anyone needs reminding of this, but political discussion almost uniformly fails to achieve anything positive in almost any social media platform. Your uncle's facebook rants? Garbage. Political sniping on Twitter? Garbage. The endless repetitive point scoring and outrage fest on most political subreddits? Garbage.
So, we have to ask, why is this content garbage?
(2) People want to be heard, but nobody wants to hear.
I do not think political discussion is garbage because of bad faith trolling. That certainly exists and does not help, but usually it's not hard to ID the trolls, and excepting egregious stuff like doxxing or threats, to ignore obvious bad faith absurdity.
The much bigger issue is that what people want to do is to be heard and validated in their political views. This is not merely that they want to proselytize or to win converts, but that they're seeking validation and a sense of rightness or righteousness in their statements.
This desire is toxic to a neutral forum, because invariably on any divisive issue, you will not merely be heard and validated, but will be challenged and denigrated. Indeed, often the challenges and denigrations themselves are the same performance in reverse. Members of each team trying to dunk on the other and earn validation for how hard they owned the other side.
(3) To overcome this, a successful political forum must have a purpose other than mere commentary.
On /r/ChangeMyView and /r/NeutralPolitics, we have been able to build forums which have large amounts of productive and non-hostile political discussion. The key to this is that neither forum allows for being heard, or general discussion, as its reason for being.
On /r/ChangeMyView we limit posts to views people genuinely hold, and are open to changing (CMV rule B). This requires that OPs cannot come to troll or soapbox. It is by far the most frequently used rule of ours in terms of removing submissions, almost always on the soapboxing side.
On /r/NeutralPolitics, we limit posts to neutrally framed questions about political subjects, which can be answered with facts. By doing this, we narrow the scope of discussion away from soliciting feelings (which is an invitation to people posting just to be heard) and towards bringing forth factual information, where people might learn something.
I don't know what purpose a political forum on Tildes might have, but to succeed it must have a clear purpose, and that purpose must be one which excludes people posting merely to be heard.
(4) In addition to a purpose beyond being heard, a political forum must have extreme civility rules.
Both CMV and NP have extremely similar rules in this regard, and they are absolutely crucial to the success of the fora.
In general, any comment or post which in any way denigrates another user should be removed. This is an extremely broad civility rule that is well past what most subreddits do. Calling another user a liar, or accusing them of bad faith posting is banned on both CMV and NP for example, even when such accusations are true.
The prohibition on what even may be seen as justified rudeness is I think the key to a civility rule. It immediately removes from the moderation process any discretion around the substance of the politics, and makes it a neutral rule which can be applied evenly to all parties.
It is also necessary because nothing productive ever happens after bad faith is accused. Almost uniformly, once someone is rude, if there is a response back to them, the response will be rude in kind, usually more severely. People love to try to get the last word in, and a clear, objective rule banning "they started it" spats is also an important component. CMV's wiki has a really good overview of how we enforce this rule there.
(5) Conclusion/TL;DR
I don't know exactly what political content should exist on Tildes. I do know that a general politics group will not work, and that rather a politics channel should be focused on a discrete purpose other than just discussion.
I would almost certainly ban link posts from any politics group, since inherently they're going to act as just headlines for people to pontificate on, without guiding discussion towards a particular goal. I would also obviously enforce civility, and have much stricter moderation of it than I might on a non-politics forum.
Edited for formatting
27 votes -
Tildes subgroup idea
Original post here What if subgroups were totally dynamic? ie: If I post to ~music with a post tagged [hip-hop] [instrumental], that post could exist in ~music.hip-hop.instrumental,...
Original post here
What if subgroups were totally dynamic?
ie:If I post to ~music with a post tagged [hip-hop] [instrumental], that post could exist in ~music.hip-hop.instrumental, ~music.instrumental.hip-hop, ~music.instrumental, ~music.hip-hop. Is there a benefit in structured hierarchy? Users could sub to the root ~music for everything, if they want, or they could sub to specific hierarchies that they enjoy (ie: i'd sub to ~music.instrumental but not ~music.hip-hop.instrumental.
This would also drop the need for specific moderation teams or support structures for larger subgroups. Additionally, it creates an interesting structure where posts aren't relegated to single groups, allowing for more discover-ability.
4 votes -
Speculative Store Bypass explained: what it is, how it works (new variant of CPU speculative-execution exploit)
4 votes -
Can we get a ~humor group please? I'm loving the news, tech and discussion posts, but some lighter fare would be nice too.
To get things started: Some dogs are more disciplined than others When Teddy is life Some pranks are universal
35 votes -
Luzmila Carpio - Wiñay Llaqta (1999)
4 votes -
Kero Kero Bonito - Time Today (2018)
6 votes -
US Supreme Court decides arbitration agreements overrule class-action rights
8 votes -
Nas - Illmatic (Any hiphopheads here?)
13 votes -
Rob Swift has how-to DJ tutorials on YT. Can't believe the legend only has 13K subscribers
4 votes -
The mystery of the most famous missing person on YouTube
7 votes -
Are music sub groups coming soon?
I'm wondering because I'm feeling kind of bad for flooding ~music with my fan girl content. I think it's quality content. I realize a lot of it's been heard but I think every sub ~ group (is that...
I'm wondering because I'm feeling kind of bad for flooding ~music with my fan girl content. I think it's quality content. I realize a lot of it's been heard but I think every sub ~ group (is that correct phrasing?) needs to have a solid base of content to build on. I don't want to be that person spamming content that people might not like, but I am trying to contribute quality stuff I don't see.
8 votes -
DJ Premier breaks down his classics - Interview presented by Genius Level - Nas, JAY-Z, Biggie, Gang Starr
6 votes -
Carpooling the Foo Fighters - "He's the guy from Nirvana??"
3 votes -
Asteroid from another star system found orbiting wrong way near Jupiter
5 votes -
Daily Tildes discussion - suggestions for promoting the site?
As promised, I've done a fair amount of updating of the Docs pages now. There were various small tweaks, but the major changes were the addition of the "Future Mechanics" page to explain a bit...
As promised, I've done a fair amount of updating of the Docs pages now. There were various small tweaks, but the major changes were the addition of the "Future Mechanics" page to explain a bit about plans for the "trust system" (which we also discussed here), as well as mostly rewriting the "Overall Goals" page so that it covers different topics than the announcement post.
I've asked this as a bit of a side question in a few other places already, but haven't really heard much, so I'm going to make it the focus today: where do you think we should try to promote Tildes to get more (good) users?
I think posting on reddit is a given, but I'd like to hear suggestions for which specific subreddits you think would be good places to try.
I tried a post on Hacker News this morning, but it did about as well as my posts there usually do—it had one upvote after an hour, so I deleted it and will try again some other time.
Outside of those, if you think there are any news sites, blogs, etc. that would be interested in the site and its goals, I could send a message to any of those as well. Michael Eades made a post about it on his blog last week which was great to see and has brought in a few people.
Edit: oh also, I've given all the existing users 5 invite codes again, so if there's anyone that you want to invite please feel free. They're available on this page, linked from the sidebar on your user page.
20 votes -
Feature Request: Mark and hide all posts as read
I just can't bear aggregators without it any more. (for reddit you can do it with RES, for HN there is also a browser extension ("Hacker News: Mark All Read") ) The only problem: you miss out on...
I just can't bear aggregators without it any more. (for reddit you can do it with RES, for HN there is also a browser extension ("Hacker News: Mark All Read") )
The only problem: you miss out on some later discussions. For this the HN extension I use has a "follow comments" toggle inside the posts, which excludes those posts from being hidden.
It also totally fixes the problematic of balancing the "freshness" on the frontpage.
8 votes -
The Onion published the threatening email they received from Michael Cohen
@theonion: In the spirit of transparency, here is Mr. Cohen's letter, printed in full: https://t.co/uPnzZYUtyZ
10 votes -
Does anybody else feel that the content within the site footer at the moment could do with a little more padding?
The fact that my cursor has to touch the edge of the screen to be able to access the site docs is not only a little awkward to use, but also looks a little cramped when compared to the consistent...
The fact that my cursor has to touch the edge of the screen to be able to access the site docs is not only a little awkward to use, but also looks a little cramped when compared to the consistent and compact nature of the rest of the site. I do see that increasing the padding or the general size of the footer would break the consistent design of Tildes, though. Perhaps spacing the footer <p> elements so they occupy the same y-level without changing the current dimensions of the footer could help?
This is a tiny niggle and it likely only affects me, however, so please do swat me down if this is unnecessary.
—Edited as I forgot to escape characters!
4 votes -
x.com other letters and pages?!
X.com only have one letter "x" on the landing page. Just out of curiosity I tested admin.php and it had one letter "y". I'm curious to know if there are other pages and other letters.
4 votes -
The Verve - The Rolling People
5 votes -
world's end girlfriend - MEGURI (2018)
5 votes -
Sweden distributes 'be prepared for war' leaflet to all 4.8m homes
6 votes -
Kikagaku Moyo - Green Sugar (2016)
6 votes -
Wade Waters - I Wanna Be Free (2009)
4 votes -
Eazy-E/NWA Live on Stage in Richmond, Va, ''Eazy Er Said Than Dunn'' 1989
2 votes -
Source and API
If it's too early in development for these questions, let me know. Is the source available yet? If so, where is it hosted? If not, when will it be dropped? Third party API: I know the docs say...
If it's too early in development for these questions, let me know.
- Is the source available yet? If so, where is it hosted? If not, when will it be dropped?
- Third party API: I know the docs say that the browser should be the client. However, after using tildes for awhile on mobile, it's quite... interesting. The site does really well on mobile, don't get me wrong, but it's missing the system feel that makes the experience pleasant. Honestly, one of the big reasons I was drawn to reddit was the ample support (by the third party) for mobile clients. I'd love to get started on a client for ~.
14 votes -
Dan the Automator & DJ Shadow - Bombay The Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars.
6 votes -
Daniel Corral - Polytope excerpts (2018)
3 votes -
Discover classic samples used on Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid, m.A.A.d City
6 votes -
Discover classic samples used on Mobb Deep's The Infamous... Mobb Deep
3 votes -
Witch Prophet — Reprogram (2018)
3 votes