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23 votes
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Re-watched the Bourne Trilogy after several years, I understand now why it was so influential
I originally watched the Bourne Trilogy as a young teenager. I found them to be great action movies, and quite enjoyed them. At the time I knew they were regarded as great action movies, but did...
I originally watched the Bourne Trilogy as a young teenager. I found them to be great action movies, and quite enjoyed them. At the time I knew they were regarded as great action movies, but did not understand the influence they had. Recently, I have heard about how influential they were on the genre, so I decided to re-watch them in my late 20s, with a lot more media awareness. A lot of the commentary I had seen going into this is how the movies popularized the shaky cam and fast cutting on action scenes. Going into this re-watch, I did not remember much, with only remembering just a few standalone scenes, but not much about the plotline (except Bourne has amnesia).
If you have not seen the movies in the past 5 years, I highly recommend you bookmark this post and stop reading then go back and watch them before continuing reading
So going into this movie, my expectations were more along the lines of a dumb action movie, with well done fast-paced editing for action scenes. I was thinking along the lines of mid-2000s equivalent to the John Wick franchise. I was wrong on this. The plot is a lot tighter than the action movies I was expecting, and the action a lot lighter. The entire trilogy has lighter action than compared to more modern action movies. There is a grand total of two explosions for the entire trilogy (one in Identity, where Bourne explodes a propane tank as a diversion, and the second in Ultimatum where another agent blows up a car). Instead, the movie focuses on hand-to-hand combat for the action (which will be discussed later), but also strongly prioritizes Bourne trying to sneak out of a situation rather than fight out of it. Trying to sneak out of an area definitely changes the tone of the movie, and for the better in my opinion.
For the action sequences, I found the fast cutting and shaky cam actually really good. I have been annoyed at other movies that have copied this style, because when done wrong it just turns the scenes into an unreadable mess. I think there are a few things done in Bourne that makes this editing style actually readable. The first is that the scope of these fight scenes are quite small. Normally they are 1v1 fights, not the fighting through a hallway of opponents that can be common in other movies. When the viewer has to keep track of only two people in a fight, the fast cuts are not as jarring. The second trick they use is providing establishing shots of the environment, keeping the environment small, and doing familiar environments (normally apartments). The viewer can very easily keep track of the different rooms they fight through, which grounds it. The third is that the fight scenes are relatively short. Also, all the fights have very clear goals (normally defeat this single person that is preventing escape). Too many movies looked at the well done Bourne action and copied it, without understanding what made the scenes work.
The other part of the movie that uses fast cuts is in the car chases. Bourne car chases are fantastic, although I would argue that there needs to be suspension of disbelief, as the damage to the vehicles are a bit extreme while staying operational. The fast cuts work well as the goal is clear "escape the city center." The viewer is not expected to be able to keep track of where in the city they are, just that they are being followed and Bourne needs to escape. Also, the movie does not use high performance cars, but instead does regular cars in tight European streets, which is a fun change compared to other movies.
The editing in general for the movie is quite engaging. I would describe it as a fragmented editing style, which works really well for the plot. The fragmented style disorients the viewer a bit, which matches well with Bourne suffering from amnesia. Cutting between various things puts the viewer into the mode of trying to piece everything together alongside Bourne (although the viewer has a bit more info, since they are aware of others actions). Then there is the two ending scenes in Supremacy (Bourne in Russia, then Bourne in the US on the phone with Landy) being reused in Ultimatum with it starting with Bourne escaping Russia and then the phone call taking place about 2/3 of the way through Ultimatum. Since I watched the two movies within about a week of each other, I found that having the movie partially exist between the two ending scenes of the previous movie really fun.
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We can fix the future, Star Trek shows us how
33 votes -
Tildes Book Club - Have you started How to Become the Dark Lord and Die Trying?
I picked up the book a couple of days ago and couldn't put it down. So now I am eagerly waiting for the chance to discuss. How is it going for you?
14 votes -
Yawning Man - Rock Formations (2005)
2 votes -
UNC-Chapel Hill researchers developing the world’s largest sky-survey telescope
5 votes -
What are you reading these days?
What are you reading currently? Fiction or non-fiction or poetry, any genre, any language! Tell us what you're reading, and talk about it a bit.
18 votes -
Epidurals are a miracle technology
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Arc Raiders is hilarious
I think the simplest thing Arc Raiders nailed about gameplay is the pacing. The enemies move at such a pace that you never get instantly vapourised; you always have a second or two to try...
I think the simplest thing Arc Raiders nailed about gameplay is the pacing. The enemies move at such a pace that you never get instantly vapourised; you always have a second or two to try something crazy even when you're utterly doomed. The times that 'something crazy' works you have a unique memorable moment. Let me tell you about one of mine.
A Rocketeer is a common headache in Arc Raiders. It's a quadcopter drone the size of a tank that shoots rockets. It usually takes a big and expensive weapon to take one down, but players started to take notice of an item called a 'Hornet Driver', basically a stun grenade. What happens when you stun an aerial drone? That's right, it drops right out of the sky, to its doom if the fall is far enough.
With this in mind, I emerged from some tunnels to find another player pinned down by a Rocketeer. I throw a Hornet Driver, it hits just the right spot and the Rocketeer drops to the ground but is unharmed... and then in trying to angrily get back in the air it flips itself over on its back, completely immobilised. The two of us strangers hesitate for a split second before we sprint over and beat the thing to death with hammers.
There are flaws in this game but in terms of creating organic events it's been a great time.
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TV Tuesdays Free Talk
Warning: this post may contain spoilers
Have you watched any TV shows recently you want to discuss? Any shows you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.
Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.
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Are there any video games that are/were popular in your country, that the rest of the world hardly knows about?
I recently have been reconnecting with something from my childhood: the Krosmoz universe! Anyone who was a kid in France between 2004 and 2012 or so either grew up on it or is at least a little...
I recently have been reconnecting with something from my childhood: the Krosmoz universe! Anyone who was a kid in France between 2004 and 2012 or so either grew up on it or is at least a little bit familiar with it. Most people outside of the country, if they know of it, generally only know of Dofus, the first of their three (actually five (actually eight if you count the dead ones)) tactical MMORPGs, or the derived TV animated series Wakfu, which was picked up on Netflix at one point. But it's massive here. Even today, they're still quite popular and perpetually developed.
As a medium, video games are not generally so closely tied to countries; more than half of their history has been during the era of globalization and the Internet. Even in the past, when you could only buy games in person in a store, people's minds everywhere were nonetheless on games from overseas. Today, games made in Sweden or Morocco have lived on the same storefronts as games made in Venezuela and Australia for a good while, and I'd bet most people don't even think about where the people who make the games they play come from.
I personally think this is a great thing! But the fact that there's something like Krosmoz, that's so unusually localized to one place, makes me curious to know if there's more; and if there is, I want to know what's unique about it, and what it says about its players and makers, too.
I've asked this before on reddit, and I remember being told about Metin2, an originally Korean MMO that was so popular in Eastern Europe that even a decade after the original Korean and US servers were shut down, players from those countries are still updating the game and keeping it alive. This is a different situation from Krosmoz but another fascinating one. It's the kind of thing I wanna know about.
This is an invitation to yap, if you'll oblige me. Do you have anything like that where you're from? A game or game franchise that only people of your culture know, and that you want everyone else to know about? I wanna hear about it!
I posted this once and immediately deleted it to make it shorter. I did not really succeed. Please don't sue me!
38 votes -
In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words
33 votes -
The Debut | Official trailer
4 votes -
I almost got hit by a car
36 votes -
German retailer Thomann is suing Fender over recent cease and desists
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Does generative AI have a natural limit without a major innovation?
I was musing about this recently with the recent models becoming more capable. The core of gen AI is the model, which is trained on a massive dataset. To date, gen AI has improved because the...
I was musing about this recently with the recent models becoming more capable. The core of gen AI is the model, which is trained on a massive dataset. To date, gen AI has improved because the models have become larger, more efficient, the data they are trained on has become better and the software/harnesses around them has improved to help query them.
As I see it, surely the bottleneck will soon become the data they are trained on? If we imagine a scenario where a models could consume an infinite amount of training data, and there is no limit to the training time or quality. The sum of human skill/knowledge is the limiting factor. Gen AI should (in theory) never be able to out preform or push the boundary of the sum of humanity at time of training.
Or, counterpoint, is there enough randomness and speed to iterate that gen AI can actually step change and improve if training times/cost were less prohibitive? Most companies/models today will save good output and feed it back into the next iteration, but right now that's taking months. What if that took minutes?
What do you think?
Is gen AI going to take us to general intelligence?
Will gen AI get to a place where it's "intelligence" and reasoning is actually better than the sum of Humanity?28 votes -
Bevy 0.19
27 votes -
Which has more Prime Ministers, Dr Who or real life?
14 votes -
Blog post: 'AI stole my face and made me a digital flesh puppet' - should I publish my life's work when extractive AI is rampant all over the internet?
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Tildes Survey #10: How often do you visit/read Tildes?
Submit your response here! Direct link: https://survey.tildes.community/-/how-often-do-you-visit-tildes-10/ This survey closes on June 28, 2026 at 10:00 UTC The results will be published on June...
Submit your response here!
- Direct link: https://survey.tildes.community/-/how-often-do-you-visit-tildes-10/
- This survey closes on June 28, 2026 at 10:00 UTC
- The results will be published on June 28 shortly after the survey has closed. I'll edit this topic and post a comment about it!
The current plans for questions that will be asked in the coming weeks are as follows:
Question Survey opens Survey closes Vote for the next 4 surveys 2026-05-24 18:00 UTC2026-05-31 10:00 UTCWhat is your gender identity? 2026-05-31 18:00 UTC2026-06-07 10:00 UTCWhat's your favorite video game? 2026-06-07 18:00 UTC2026-06-14 10:00 UTCHow optimistic are you about the future? 2026-06-14 18:00 UTC2026-06-21 10:00 UTCHow often do you visit/read Tildes? 2026-06-21 18:00 UTC 2026-06-28 10:00 UTC This will be the last survey until August! Gonna take a little break from the surveys and develop the backend tools a bit more, as well as go on a vacation during the end of July, to the Tildes homeland actually! But in August I'll be back and we'll vote for the next set of surveys and get right back to it. :D
Please submit your ideas for questions here! Even if they've been submitted already by someone else. All input is valuable! You can view all submitted questions on this dashboard.
Thank you all for participating!
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Bot web traffic has overtaken human web traffic
I've been seeing this claim repeated across social media, blogs, and various online communities these days. However, I haven't yet found a discussion that digs into the evidence behind it or...
I've been seeing this claim repeated across social media, blogs, and various online communities these days. However, I haven't yet found a discussion that digs into the evidence behind it or provides reliable sources.
Where can I learn more about this topic?
I'm increasingly skeptical of mainstream media coverage and a lot of what I encounter online, so I'm looking for sources that are as rigorous and unbiased as possible. I'd especially appreciate:
- Academic papers and research studies
- Industry reports with transparent methodologies
- Independent analyses that critically examine the claim
- Any insights from people who work in web infrastructure, cybersecurity, search, analytics, or related fields
If you know of high-quality resources, I'd love to read about them.
20 votes -
The largest wind project in US history, SunZia, has begun powering California
19 votes -
‘Toy Story 5’ scores year’s biggest debut with $160 million, shattering franchise opening weekend record
19 votes -
Giannis Antetokounmpo trade: Miami Heat land Milwaukee Bucks star in massive blockbuster
5 votes -
Nobody clicks your share buttons
26 votes -
In the US abortion wars, new frontline is pills via telehealth
8 votes -
Erling Haaland scored twice as Norway booked their place in the last thirty-two of the 2026 World Cup with victory over Senegal in New Jersey
7 votes -
Wallflower.app -- A "Literary" (read: calm) Mastodon and BlueSky web app
31 votes -
A retrospective of 1970s queer magazines from the post-Stonewall era
8 votes -
What happened to the 50ft M&M Statue of Liberty?
9 votes -
List of films adapted into novels
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Jack Gardiner - Shibuya Meltdown feat. Gianluca Pellerito & Riccardo Oliva (2025)
5 votes -
Tom Scott: England | Episode 13: In Derbyshire, at the National Ferret School
14 votes -
Japanese symbols that speak without words
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Klara and the Sun | Official trailer
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What have you been listening to this week?
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! If you've just picked up some music, please update on that as...
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! If you've just picked up some music, please update on that as well, we'd love to see your hauls :)
Feel free to give recs or discuss anything about each others' listening habits.
You can make a chart if you use last.fm:
http://www.tapmusic.net/lastfm/
Remember that linking directly to your image will update with your future listening, make sure to reupload to somewhere like imgur if you'd like it to remain what you have at the time of posting.
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What have you been eating, drinking, and cooking?
What food and drinks have you been enjoying (or not enjoying) recently? Have you cooked or created anything interesting? Tell us about it!
5 votes -
Amberian Dawn – The Vision Of Dreaming (2026)
6 votes -
Earthbound Beginnings Remake (Mother 1 fan remake in Earthbound engine) completed after nineteen years
33 votes -
How to tie a tie, animated
20 votes -
Inside the marriage wars
8 votes -
Memory System | Ambient Swim | Liquid DnB, Jungle, Breakcore (2026)
8 votes -
Steam Next Fest June 2026
29 votes -
Not so empty nesters: record-high number of US adults under 35 live at home, new data says
44 votes -
Test your medical knowledge with daily clinical scenarios
30 votes -
To all the dads celebrating it today -- Happy father's day!
Here's to the wild ride that is fatherhood!
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Tildes Survey #8: What is your favorite video game? (Results)
Warning: this post may contain spoilers
Original post
Submit your response here!
- Direct link: https://survey.tildes.community/-/what-is-your-favorite-video-game-8/
- This survey closes on June 14, 2026 at 10:00 UTC
- The results will be published on June 14 shortly after the survey has closed. I'll edit this topic and post a comment about it!
The current plans for questions that will be asked in the coming weeks are as follows:
Question Survey opens Survey closes Vote for the next 4 surveys 2026-05-24 18:00 UTC2026-05-31 10:00 UTCWhat is your gender identity? 2026-05-31 18:00 UTC2026-06-07 10:00 UTCWhat's your favorite video game? 2026-06-07 18:00 UTC 2026-06-14 10:00 UTC How optimistic are you about the future? 2026-06-14 18:00 UTC 2026-06-21 10:00 UTC How often do you visit/read Tildes? 2026-06-21 18:00 UTC 2026-06-28 10:00 UTC I was initially thinking of doing something like kfwyre suggested where you could submit a top 5 or so, but then I thought it would be more fun if I made you decide on a definitive answer. Like how with the pineapple pizza survey there was only Yes and No as answers, you have to make a choice!
So that's what I've decided to do! Pick your ultimate favorite video game. And feel free to discuss your honorable mentions in the comments, of course. ;)
Please submit your ideas for questions here! Even if they've been submitted already by someone else. All input is valuable! You can view all submitted questions on this dashboard.
Thank you all for participating!
The survey has been closed and the results are in!
Thank you to all the 166 people that responded! Check out the dashboard for the full results!
I was initially thinking of making a custom visualization with all the game covers in a big collage together, but I ended up not having the time to do it. :'( If anyone is interested in trying to make that though, please do! I think it'd look really cool.
Thank you all again for participating! Hope to see you in the next survey! :)
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Save Point: A game deal roundup for the week of June 21
Add awesome game deals to this topic as they come up over the course of the week! Alternately, ask about a given game deal if you want the community’s opinions: e.g. “What games from this bundle...
Add awesome game deals to this topic as they come up over the course of the week!
Alternately, ask about a given game deal if you want the community’s opinions: e.g. “What games from this bundle are most worth my attention?”
Rules:
- No grey market sales
- No affiliate links
If posting a sale, it is strongly encouraged that you share why you think the available game/games are worthwhile.
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save pointto your personal tag filters.5 votes -
Midweek Movie Free Talk
Warning: this post may contain spoilers
Have you watched any movies recently you want to discuss? Any films you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.
Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.
10 votes -
Watch baseball games in realtime in 8-bit view
15 votes