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    1. What do you think about Destiny 2’s imminent death and games as a service?

      Before I go into my rant I would like to ask you: Have you played Destiny or Destiny 2? What are your thoughts on Bungie, the imminent death of Destiny, their push for Marathon, and “games as a...

      Before I go into my rant I would like to ask you: Have you played Destiny or Destiny 2? What are your thoughts on Bungie, the imminent death of Destiny, their push for Marathon, and “games as a service” in general?

      As for my opinion, I think that the real problem is that (probably) most managers, CEOs, investors, and shareholders involved in live service games aren’t gamers. They don’t care about the quality of the games. A majority of them probably don’t even play what they publish.

      What they care about is to maximize revenue with minimal effort, cost, and risk.

      The programmers and artists suffer from low wages and job insecurity, and the gamers suffer from live service slop that eventually gets sunset even when it has a dedicated fan base (that could grow if the game was better).

      We can’t win against this horde of managers, CEOs, investors, and shareholders. They got AAA in a chokehold, especially in live service.

      We gotta continue to vote with our wallets and give our money to the companies who deliver quality games, and pull our money out when they don’t.

      If Bungie dies, I’ll be sad because I have a long history with Halo (Combat Evolved, 2, 3, ODST, and Reach), but so be it. Something better may rise from their ashes.

      We gotta resist the slop. It’s like fast food. We gotta resist it even if it’s addictive, and go get better quality grub elsewhere even if it costs more. If we keep eating the slop, they’ll continue frying more of it.

      Edit: To make sure I don’t confuse anyone, I should add that Destiny 2 will receive one last content update this month, and will remain playable, just as its predecessor, for the time being. What I think most people are complaining about is that a game that could potentially be excellent, will be left in a messy state, designed mostly around maximizing revenue through micro-transactions, rather than offering a good experience. It has a large and passionate fanbase, but will basically abandoned by Bungie, in favor of their new game Marathon, which no one cares about

      38 votes
    2. Legacy sequels and remakes you think were actually good and worth making?

      Studios these days tend to make a lot of movies reusing existing IPs because that's what they know will sell. You have the "new entry in a long running franchise" kinda IP utilizing movies, like...

      Studios these days tend to make a lot of movies reusing existing IPs because that's what they know will sell.

      You have the "new entry in a long running franchise" kinda IP utilizing movies, like say Alien Romulus or the latest MCU film.

      Then you have the "legacy sequel" and "remake", when there might have been only 1-3 original movies, and they bring it back 15+ years later. These are often called "cash grabs", "disrespectful to the original", "unaware of what made the first one good", or something similar. Other times, though, they can be genuinely good, if not better than the first one in some ways.

      The Naked Gun (2025) is the one that inspired this post. I went in without any expectations, and I thought it was a great time. They had some really good jokes about life in the 2020s (such as Tesla door handles being death traps, for example) that I thought were delivered very well. Also, since the genre of parody movies in the style of The Naked Gun or Airplane essentially died off, having a new one felt actually necessary unlike many phoned-in legacy sequels.

      Another example that comes to mind is Blade Runner 2049. Before it came out, the idea of a Blade Runner 2 was so ridiculous, I believe it was a throwaway South Park gag. People assumed that if it ever came out, it'd be a cash grab. But it ended up being so good, I've heard people argue in places like Tildes that it's better than the original.

      The third example I can think of is Top Gun: Maverick. Ever since it's release I've see a lot of people online sing its praises whenever it's come up. In fact, there is a night-and-day difference in the Rotten Tomatoes score for the two films, with the original having a 59% and the legacy sequel having a 96%.

      Can you think of any other legacy sequels or remakes that hold a candle to the original film(s), or surpass them? Bonus points if it's one nobody expected to be good until it released.

      25 votes
    3. The "why does this movie exist" scene

      Hello, I just rewatched the final boss fight of the spectacularly amazing 2010 movie Kickass, and I remembered something I've been meaning to float by movie-knowers... As I see it, this boss fight...

      Hello,

      I just rewatched the final boss fight of the spectacularly amazing 2010 movie Kickass, and I remembered something I've been meaning to float by movie-knowers...

      As I see it, this boss fight is the reason this movie exists. The way I picture how "hollywood"-movies are made is that there is a writers room or producers meeting where nothing happens until someone brings out the weed, schrooms and/or coke which lets real brainstorming take place. And suddenly BAM! You have a single amazing thing happen: the Event.

      Once that is settled they work backwards to building a believable story that leads up to that event.

      The Event for Kickass is having a grown man beat the pulp out of a young girl without anyone really noticing or making a big deal out if it.

      This creates some constraints (remember its 2008/9 at the time of writing), for example:

      • the girl can not be seen as a helpless victim.
      • the man can't win in the end.
      • the beating must be reasonably justified within the story and not just pure sadism/misogyny.
      • the beating must look very unrealistic.

      From those premises they created a a scenario that would make it possible and wrote out a whole film.

      I often find myself having an A-ha!-moment when I find the Event in movies, it's one of the reasons I watch them.

      This is in my view one of the biggest reason why sequels are bad: the Event has already been had in the first movie so there isn't really anything of value left to the story.

      I'm up for talking about things like:

      • how far away I am from the real method of making films
      • what defining Events you see in this or other movies
      • how and why sequels in general or particular are good/bad
      • who went as Kick-Ass or Hit-Girl for Halloween
      • ....
      27 votes
    4. Overwatch 2 now: how does it look to you?

      I get the feeling that, outside its own communities, Overwatch has mostly slipped out of the wider conversation. We've had: Blizzard’s various incidents/controversies The shift to OW2 and all the...

      I get the feeling that, outside its own communities, Overwatch has mostly slipped out of the wider conversation.

      We've had:

      • Blizzard’s various incidents/controversies

      • The shift to OW2 and all the confusion/anger around that

      • The battle pass / shop pricing / F2P monetization complaints

      • Cancellation of PVE mode

      • General live-service fatigue

      Most of that hasn’t really been “fixed”, but I'm not seeing nearly as much noise about it anymore, good or bad.


      My own (slightly biased) view as someone still playing:

      As a now free-to-play, live-service game with ongoing updates and "events", I feel like OW2's cosmetic pricing is (unfortunately) pretty standard compared to similar big titles. I'm not saying that's good, I think aggressive monetization is a wider industry problem, but within that landscape, the model itself doesn't feel uniquely outrageous to me if the goal is keeping a big, polished game running long-term.

      I also doubt the actual dev team has much control over pricing, so that part lands more on Blizzard/ABK as a company (shocker).

      Setting that aside: purely in terms of gameplay, the game currently feels the best it ever has to me. There's a good variety of modes, and things like the new Stadium mode feel very different from the usual Quick Play/Comp loop while still keeping the core of what makes Overwatch fun: the heroes, the readability, how smooth and well-designed everything feels.


      What I'd like to hear from you:

      Especially if you're not deep in the OW ecosystem anymore (or never were):

      • Do you think about Overwatch at all these days?

      • Did you drop it because of Blizzard, OW2’s launch, monetization, balance, something else?

      • From the outside, does it feel “fine now”, “permanently tainted”, “kind of irrelevant”, or just background noise?

      • If you never really played it: is there anything that would actually make you try Overwatch 2 in its current state?

      And if you are still playing or following it closely, I'm also interested in how you feel about the state of the game vs peak OW1 / early OW2, especially whether it's earned back any trust or enthusiasm.

      Not trying to rehash every incident in detail, just curious how the game and its reputation land for people who aren’t immersed in it every day.

      23 votes