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8 votes
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Wonder Woman 1984 | Trailer
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Black Widow | Official teaser
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Harley Quinn | Official full red band trailer
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Spiderverse Twitter account teases *something* for April 8, 2022
@spiderverse: April 8, 2022 🕷 #SpiderVerse https://t.co/FC5nVIuciB
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Birds of Prey | Official trailer
6 votes -
Spider-Man will stay in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
12 votes -
Joker | Final trailer
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Disney-Sony standoff ends Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige’s involvement in ‘Spider-Man’
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Art Spiegelman: Golden age superheroes were shaped by the rise of fascism
12 votes -
Fox feels the pressure from Disney as film flops mount
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The superheroes are the villains in Amazon's dark comedy 'The Boys' — Is it any good?
14 votes -
J. Michael Straczynski reveals painful origin story in Becoming Superman
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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness with Benedict Cumberbatch and Elizabeth Olsen. Scott Derrickson returns as director. In theaters May 7, 2021.
7 votes -
Superman II - WTF happened to this movie?
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Disney announces dates for new Star Wars movies, MCU Phase 4, and more
15 votes -
Box office trackers can’t crack the MCU code
4 votes -
The ‘El Chicano’ Latinx superhero movie needed more of El Chicano
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"Avengers: Endgame" has shattered all box office records
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Joker | Teaser trailer
18 votes -
Avengers IP, assemble: The wild, circuitous path to Marvel getting its own brands back
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Captain Marvel has made $760 million worldwide. $1 billion is in its sights.
18 votes -
James Gunn will direct Guardians of the Galaxy 3
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Avengers: Endgame | Trailer 2
10 votes -
'Captain Marvel' shatters stereotypes with $34M Friday in China
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Finally, women have their own mediocre Marvel movie
15 votes -
Spider-Man: Far From Home | Official teaser trailer
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First Muslim superhero returns after seventy years – just in time to take down a few Nazis
7 votes -
Marvel Studios' Avengers | Official trailer
17 votes -
‘Daredevil’ canceled at Netflix after three seasons
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A eulogy for Batman & Robin | Movies with Mikey
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The CW reveals first look at Ruby Rose as Batwoman
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James Gunn is moving to DC and is in talks to write the next Suicide Squad film
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How 'Supergirl' is changing the game for transgender youth
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A look at the Joker with makeup from the new origin story of him. Movie titled "Joker"
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What's in a name? Patience Phillips' Catwoman
For anyone who doesn't recognize Patience Phillips, she was Halle Berry's Catwoman in the most terrible superhero film - Catwoman (2004)...that I really enjoyed it. Probably because it wasn't...
For anyone who doesn't recognize Patience Phillips, she was Halle Berry's Catwoman in the most terrible superhero film - Catwoman (2004)...that I really enjoyed it. Probably because it wasn't well-received, it's often overlooked when talking about things like "the first female hero on screen" or "the first black hero..." sort of things. And technically, Catwoman's not a superhero.
Spoilers ahead. I'm also going to keep my points to the story and characters themselves. I honestly had no issues with any of the actors.
The good
- The theme and social commentary on make-up, beauty products, self-harm/addiction and image issues woman do face. The added layer of cooperate greed. The idea of what you see in the mirror vs. what others see (and if they're right), alongside what you want to present to the world or to specific people - honestly this movie has probably one of the best takes on "the cost of beauty" that I've seen in a while, and since.
- The scene where Tom thinks he's saving a jumper, but Patience is actually trying to save a cat. This random scene turns out to be a great storytelling scene when brought up again after Tom arrests Patience for murder and she asks him what he first saw the first time they met.
- Laurel is probably the most interesting character in this movie. There's a really well-framed shot of her photos being removed from her company lobby in favour of a younger model. I think it's one of the best scenes in the movie. Laurel is capable, powerful, rich and very accomplished, but somehow her relevance still fades as her beauty does. (I can honestly say I generally can't stand the evil step-mother wrestling with her fading beauty and taking out her bitterness on some young snow white-y girl, but this one worked for me.)
- I loved that Batman wasn't in it (but didn't really like that a love interest still had to be introduced).
The bad
- That she's call Patience Phillips...but honestly this is the warning to divorce this from any Catwoman or female superheros (or anti-heros) you know.
- Patience doesn't earn her "powers" - Selina Kyle (Catwoman in basically all other versions) works obsessively to perfect all her abilities. She's an insanely good cat burglar, not a magic cat.
- Patience doesn't earn or drive her own growth. There is basically no growth as a character. A magic cat ghost could have simply possessed Patience's body and the story would be the same.
- Oversexualization of Catwoman...which I didn't even know could be a thing until this movie. Black leather for a sexy Catwoman - awesome. Whatever the belt thing was - grossly missed the point while trying to copy Pfeiffer's patched up catsuit.
- I'm also not the biggest fan of make-over tropes in general.
The ugly
- The basketball scene - just everything about it.
- The hate that surrounded the movie because Catwoman wasn't blonde (or Michelle Pfeiffer), and that Batman's not in it.
- The physical punch-them-out fight scene between Laurel and Catwoman in the end - just why? This isn't a movie at all about physical strength, and having a "face like marble" isn't a real power. (To be fair, I don't like this showdown in really any superhero movie, with the exception of The Death of Superman.)
The cheesy
- The crazy cat-lady Patience goes too, and her tossing a cat toy at her
- The sushi eating scene
- The in case of date emergency kit her friends gave her.
- Laurel seeing her cracked beauty in the moment of a showdown fight
- The cat scratches on Tom
- Her best friend hooking up with her doctor
- The comparing signatures on the coffee cups
- Her Marvel-like comic book name
Final thoughts
So yeah...I would recommend this movie, and really hope that when they do make another Catwoman film that it might share some themes. Have you seen this movie? Did you hate it? Who's your favourite Catwoman? What would you like to see in a Catwoman movie?
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'I just expected better': Reimagining a Muslim female superhero
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Brie Larson takes flight as Captain Marvel on this week's EW cover
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Anyone else looking forward to Spiderman for the PS4?
The embargo drops on the 4th. No reason to pre-order because you can get all those items just by playing the game. The game actually looks fun and I'm craving another open world game after God of...
The embargo drops on the 4th. No reason to pre-order because you can get all those items just by playing the game. The game actually looks fun and I'm craving another open world game after God of War. I've been revisiting the fallout games in the meantime. The xbox trolls have ramped it up because they aren't getting the game, the whole "downgrade-gate" thing is stupid.
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Screen tests for 'Batman' TV series (1966)
Adam West & Burt Ward - Batman - Screen Tests (RARE) (1 of 3) Lyle Waggoner & Peter Deyell vs Adam West & Burt Ward - Batman Screen Tests (RARE) (2 of 3) Yvonne Craig - Batman / Batgirl - Network...
Adam West & Burt Ward - Batman - Screen Tests (RARE) (1 of 3)
Lyle Waggoner & Peter Deyell vs Adam West & Burt Ward - Batman Screen Tests (RARE) (2 of 3)
Yvonne Craig - Batman / Batgirl - Network Presentation (RARE) (3 of 3)
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Comic Books - tell me about your favorites, my Tilderinos!
Or whatever else you'd want to talk about concerning comic books! A new comic book shop has opened in my town, and my fiancée and I are pretty excited about it. We've never really been into them,...
Or whatever else you'd want to talk about concerning comic books!
A new comic book shop has opened in my town, and my fiancée and I are pretty excited about it. We've never really been into them, but we're pretty excited to get into them. On that note, does anyone have any good recommendations for a newcomer?
As a neat aside, we have a thirty-plus year old comic book-ization of Return of the Jedi, and that's pretty cool.
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Gotham - the okay-est not-Batman Batman story part 2: Makeovers
As mentioned in part 1: Diversity, I'm currently rewatching Gotham on Netflix, and just writing up a whatever thoughts I have about the show. I find this show to be really good and really bad in a...
As mentioned in part 1: Diversity, I'm currently rewatching Gotham on Netflix, and just writing up a whatever thoughts I have about the show. I find this show to be really good and really bad in a lot of places, both in storytelling in general and as a comic adaptation.
Warning, there will be spoilers for the first three seasons (what I've seen up to).
What I'm calling a makeover trope
I'm basically defining any transformation, usually from undesirable/imperfect to desirable/perfect in the eyes of someone (usually a love interest). How this trope plays out is generally very gender specific, so I'm breaking it up into men and women. This trope is definitely not limited to what I'm going to cover.
Women and the power of makeup
When this trope is applied to a woman, there's generally shopping, hair and make-up involved. Examples includes:- creepy kidnapping, bathing and redress of a woman before presenting her to usually a man
- common whip off her glasses and let down her hair
- evil or sad all-black with heavy eyeliner
- crazy/mad extra sexy make-up and clothes
- girl-power shopping/spa day
Men and the power of pushups
When this trope is applied to a man, there's generally a training montage. Examples include:- hitting the gym
- arming themselves with new weapons
- new sharp tailored clothes
- spiking up their hair, or shaving
- turning evil after a betrayal
Why I hate them
I admit, it's a bit unfair to say I hate them, since this trope is pretty central to a lot of stories and will go unnoticed if done well. Character growth (in either direction) move stories. However, they stick out so much when tossed in poorly or for no reason, and I really do hate them then. Generally when I see them:
- they are often shallow, such as just changing their hair (sure you can argue the symbolism of this, but it's cliche it's likely to be a reach to do so)
- they change an individual character, but doesn't add to their relationships in a meaningful matter
- (for women) they come with a sense of "taming", usually including a "breaking" phase, and usually by a man who just knows better
How they can be good
The makeover trope can be a very powerful character development tool. It can be driven by the plot or drive the plot. For me a good makeover trope will likely include:
- internal desires to change, such as acknowledging a personal fault and wanting to improve
- natural transformations, such as growing up or learning from experience
- improves (or breaks down) existing relationships by comparing or contrasting our character with their close ones. This can work great to emphasis who they were to who they are or who they want to be
Finally getting to Gotham
Gotham, as a prequel to Batman, are origin stories, which by definition are transformation stories. We're watching the city of Gotham being transformed, Bruce Wayne becoming Batman, Oswald becoming the Penguin, and so on.
In no particular order, here are some makeovers that stood out to me:
Ivy Pepper (Hotness makeover)
She's a tiny stupid kid with frizzy hair, who magically grows ten years and becomes super hot. So now you have childlike innocents meet boobs. But she's Poison Ivy, and she grew like a weed...get it?Safe to say, I did not like this change.
Leslie Thompkins (Evil makeover)
She's hurting after her husband is killed, and decides to use a drug to "free" herself. Though I didn't like this plot, I actually have no issues with this transformation, except for two things:- Why the booby black clothes and eyeliner? This is just a pet peeve of mine. I just want to see a woman turn evil and not become some sexy fetish.
- No follow through. There are no consequences to this transformation. Jim, being the hero, will force her to take the antidote, and that's that. As cliche as it would be, I would prefer Jim somehow talk her into taking it, instead of just forcing it on her. Now it's just a weird take on the damsel in distress trope.
I should also add, I actually don't like how characters need an excuse to do bad things. I think it would have been better if she just decided to screw Jim over, instead of this whole roundabout way of doing so, but still basically saying she loves him. Guess this saves the writers a redemption line.
Barbara Kean (Madness makeover)
Barbara is kidnapped and tortured by the Orge who believes she's his soulmate. Though this has makeover tropes I really dislike, specifically the "breaking/taming" and the "I see you for who you are and I will set you free" that comes with a huge dose of patriarchy, I actually thought this was pretty well done and revealed to the audience. I just wished they had more follow through regarding Barbara herself after this, instead of the shift to simply crazy, but still obsessed with Jim.Isabella (Dead girlfriend makeover)
After learning that Ed (the Riddler) accidentally murdered his old girlfriend, who she looks exactly alike, Isabella decides to dress up as his dead girlfriend to prove "he won't hurt her". Little bit of a reverse of the the common trope, as she puts on glasses and ties her hair in a pony tail for this one. She's a disposable refrigerator girl, so my expectations were pretty low here. Still annoying to watch though.Oswald Cobblepot (Evil/power-up makeover)
This character actually probably transforms the most through the series. There are lots of cliche bits, including sharp new clothes, but his transformations are generally a result of his own work and are fun.Selina Kyle (Dress-up makeover)
The writers generally handle this character really well, so I'm not sure why they decided to toss in a random "guy sends over boxes and bags of shoes and clothes so you can dress up". She does dress up for the charity event, but easily goes back to herself. So, this was cliche, but has no consequences, ...so meh?Bruce Wayne (Toughness/reality makeover)
The entire series basically has Bruce's slow transformation to Batman in the subplot. His interactions with Selina gives him the reality checks he's looking for, while contrasting his believes, specifically with Batman's infamous "no killing" rule. His makeover is deliberate, strongly internally motivated and permanent. His growth is believable.Final thoughts
So this turned out way longer than I intended, and I actually didn't include nearly as much detail as I was going to.
Thoughts? How does Gotham compare to other shows or stories?
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So what are you guys' opinions or hopes/fears of Disney aquiring the rights to X-Men?
For me personally I'm excited because I really like what they've done with the MCU. It's not perfect but I think they've done a fine job so far and would prefer them to have a go at the X-Men (and...
For me personally I'm excited because I really like what they've done with the MCU. It's not perfect but I think they've done a fine job so far and would prefer them to have a go at the X-Men (and FF) franchise. As a long time fan the movies have been hit and miss with the Fox X-Men for me so far. For example:
Love:
First Class
X2
LoganLike:
DOFP
X1
The WolverineDon't care for whatsoever:
Wolverine Origins
X3
ApocalypseSo really Fox did okay with the rights but not as good as they could have. The Fantastic Four specifically movies are laughable. Hell the Roger Corman flick was better than it's successors. I didn't even bother with the most recent as you could tell it was slap dashed together.
So what do you guys think?
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Aquaman | Official trailer 1
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Shazam! | Official teaser trailer
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Every live-action Superman ranked from worst to best
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James Gunn fired as director of 'Guardians of the Galaxy' franchise over offensive tweets
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Glass | Official trailer
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The Dark Knight: The Joker - Wanna know how he got the scars?
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What are some of your favorite comic book stories for "classic" characters?
I love comic books but just don't have the time to be a regular reader. I like classic characters, though, like Superman, Batman, X-Men, etc but it's always difficult to find self-contained...
I love comic books but just don't have the time to be a regular reader. I like classic characters, though, like Superman, Batman, X-Men, etc but it's always difficult to find self-contained stories that don't require knowing all the ins and outs of what a character has gone through or knowing that certain events happened.
What are your favorite self-contained series or graphic novels in comics? I'm looking for suggestions of things that are great stories that happen to have comic book characters (like Watchmen, Dark Knight, Hush, etc.) rather than cheesy comic book adventures (like All-Star Superman, which is a little too golden age for me).
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