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12 votes
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Not every Trump voter is racist or misled. There’s a rational Trump voter too
23 votes -
Is this a coup?
29 votes -
It’s time to restore scientific integrity
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TikTok can continue to operate in the US, Commerce Department says
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TikTok says the Trump administration has forgotten about trying to ban it, would like to know what’s up
16 votes -
Trump loyalists get top Pentagon jobs after firing of defence secretary Mark Esper
11 votes -
Estonia's far-right minister resigns over Biden remarks
12 votes -
Being with Trump the day he lost
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A little-known Donald Trump appointee is in charge of handing transition resources to US President Joe Biden — and she isn’t budging
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2020 Election News and Information (Week of November 1st)
A thread you can easily ignore A new week a new thread As the pace and the quantity of information that is coming out of the election increases. Instead of creating a new post for everything, or...
A thread you can easily ignore
A new week a new thread
As the pace and the quantity of information that is coming out of the election increases. Instead of creating a new post for everything, or not posting things because it is a smaller item, please feel free to post here.
Feel free to break out any information posted here into its own thread if the discussion warrants it.Major news can/should be broken out into its own topic. (use your own discretion)
Final thread before the election
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Trump is attempting a coup in plain sight
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2020 US Presidential Election Results - Discussion Thread
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These threads are intended as more conversational spaces to process the day and results. Consider this an open forum for your own thoughts and feelings.
There is also a thread here in ~news that's more focused on articles and events.
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Donald Trump gives remarks regarding the US election results
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2020 US Presidential Election Day - Discussion Thread
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We have a thread here in ~news that's more focused on articles and events, but I also want us to have a more conversational space to process the day. Consider this an open forum for your own thoughts and feelings.
50 votes -
South Park creators launch new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes
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2020 Election News and Information (Week of October 25th)
A thread you can easily ignore A new week a new thread As the pace and the quantity of information that his coming out of the election increases. Instead of creating a new post for everything, or...
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A new week a new thread
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Thank goodness this is almost over
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Dear Dad, please don’t vote for Donald Trump this time
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Donald Trump vs Joe Biden | Epic Rap Battles Of History
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2020 Election News and Information (Week of October 18th)
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20 votes -
How US President Donald Trump ruined political comedy
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“Would you be willing to ask Siri how to assassinate Trump?” - excerpt from Shelter in Place
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Trump/Biden 2020 Presidential Debate #2 Discussion Thread
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Info from The Washington Post:
Location: Belmont University in Nashville
Moderator: Kristen Welker, NBC News White House correspondent and co-anchor of “Weekend Today”
Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that the moderator has chosen. They are: fighting covid-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership.
Trump’s campaign has criticized the topics, saying they thought this was supposed to be a foreign policy debate. The head of the Commission on Presidential Debates said that’s not true.
Trump has criticized the moderator, Welker, as being biased, as he has other moderators. The commission and even a Fox News host have defended Welker’s integrity.
The commission also announced days before the debate that in light of Trump’s frequent interruptions during the first one, it will silence the microphone of the candidate who is not speaking during the two-minute opening segment for each candidate. After each candidate has two minutes, there will be an open discussion where both microphones will be on, but the commission urged civility in a statement: “It is the hope of the Commission that the candidates will be respectful of each other’s time.” The Trump campaign said it still will participate, despite the president criticizing a potential virtual debate as a forum where it would be too easy to silence his microphone.
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Inside Foxconn's empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin
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Trump & Biden 2020 US Presidential Town Halls Discussion Thread
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Watch Trump's Town Hall on YouTube
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Watch Biden's Town Hall on YouTube
Begins approximately ~2 hours from the time of this posting. Runs for an hour and a half
More information from CNN.
In case you're wondering why there are two separate town halls happening instead of Debate #2 tonight, @3d12 has the recap here.
25 votes -
Last exit from autocracy
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Trump will undergo televised medical evaluation on Friday night, Fox News announces
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Can a good person support President Trump?
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Presidential debate: Trump refuses to take part in virtual TV event
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The story of how Rinaldo Nazzaro built The Base, a neo-Nazi terror organization—and how it all came apart
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US Presdient Donald Trump’s antibody treatment was tested using fetal cells obtained through abortion
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US President Donald Trump abruptly scraps stimulus talks, punting on economic relief until after Election Day
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US President Donald Trump and first lady Melania have tested positive for coronavirus
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Trump/Biden 2020 Presidential Debate #1 Discussion Thread
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Info from The Washington Post:
Location: Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. (This was originally scheduled to be held at the University of Notre Dame. Notre Dame withdrew, saying the fact that it would have to limit student attendance and volunteer opportunities because of the pandemic erased the reason to host a debate at the university.)
Moderator: Chris Wallace, anchor of “Fox News Sunday”
Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. There will be no opening statements. Wallace will dive right in with the first question to Trump. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that Wallace has chosen. They are:
- the Trump and Biden records
- the Supreme Court
- the coronavirus pandemic
- the economy
- race and violence in cities
- the integrity of the election
56 votes -
Data leak reveals Donald Trump campaign strategy to deter millions of Black Americans from voting in 2016
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US President Donald Trump’s taxes show chronic losses and years of income tax avoidance
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Trump campaign is reportedly plotting an election coup to “bypass” a Biden win
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President Trump is continuing his war on Section 230 and the right for the open internet to exist
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Trump won’t commit to ‘peaceful’ post-election transfer of power
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Donald Trump accused of sexual assault by former model Amy Dorris
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Court blocks Trump’s WeChat ban from taking effect today
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Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was ‘deadly’ and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans
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People who live near the most toxic sites in America say they saw a level of attention they hadn't seen in decades under Donald Trump
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Trump eliminates federal anti-racism training, calling it “a sickness”
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The path to autocracy; A second Trump term will leave America’s political system and culture looking even more like Orbán’s Hungary
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Donald Trump administration announces nationwide US eviction moratorium through end of the year
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Just how bad is Trump's 2020 pitch?
Not submitting a link. Last thing that scumbag needs is web traffic. But...let's suppose every one of this items actually came to pass in a reasonable form. There is some stuff there even I would...
Not submitting a link. Last thing that scumbag needs is web traffic.
But...let's suppose every one of this items actually came to pass in a reasonable form. There is some stuff there even I would legitimately want. So let's see the good/bad of Trump's lies, and discuss.
I'm bolding things that are (IMHO) obviously very, very bad. Italicizing ones that might be good, but are likely just lies. Striking out anything that is blatant pandering that the president has 0 ability to act on.
The purpose of this mental exercise is to see how people who don't keep up with politics might fall for the rhetoric. Know your enemy and all of that.
JOBS
Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 MonthsCreate 1 Million New Small Businesses- Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America
- Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs
- "Made in America" Tax Credits
- I like the idea of trying to locally source stuff. Tax Credits are not how to do it.
- Expand Opportunity Zones
- Eh, sounds good on paper...but will likely just be another loophole.
- Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence
ERADICATE COVID-19
Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020Return to Normal in 2021- Maybe if we actually did what we needed to do. I don't have my hopes up.
- Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States
- Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics
- Yay for fixing your fuck-up way too late?
END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA
Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China- Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China
- Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring Back their Manufacturing to the United States
- No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China
- Outsourcing bad. But China isn't the only place.
- Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World
- God. Damn. It. I have no words.
HEALTHCARE
- Cut Prescription Drug Prices
- Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System
- Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums
- End Surprise Billing
- Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions
- Wait, didn't ACA do that?
- Protect Social Security and Medicare
- They obviously mean by increasing age to collect, privatizing, and actually trying to dismantle it. But you know...would be good if they did the opposite of what they've tried to do the last 2+ decades.
- Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services
- How about for everybody else too?
EDUCATION
- Provide School Choice to Every Child in America
- Yea, let's do away with church/state separation and also enable crippling debt from kindergarten. /s
- Teach American Exceptionalism
- I have no words. This is basically the worst thing ever.
DRAIN THE SWAMP
- Pass Congressional Term Limits
- End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses
- Nice soundbite...but 'End Bureaucratic Government' is code for "Let's stop regulating to prevent discrimination and other things that are generally good ideas"
- Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States
- Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens
- Yea...cause the USA is the bastion of all that is good and does no wrong /s
DEFEND OUR POLICE
- Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers
- Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers
- Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
- Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
- Somehow I think the actual Nazis won't be targeted by this.
- End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial
- End monetary Bail. Anything else: bad.
END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS
- Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition
- Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members
- Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks
- End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families
- I can't bold this one hard enough
- Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers
- Nice soundbite, but give Unions power again and those kinds of problems will resolve themselves.
- Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially
INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE
- Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
- Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System
- Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network
- Not sure who you're 'winning' against, but whatever.
- Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air
- Um....yea.... how about everybody gets those things?
- Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans
AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY
- Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home
- Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share
- Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength
- Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans
- That sounds a lot like 'Continue with Endless Wars'
- Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System
- Maybe, just maybe, if we stopped bombing everybody else this wouldn't be needed.
Sorry, couldn't resist adding my additional commentary. So yea, looking over it again...very, very bad. But enough gems in there that the uninformed that only hears about those might fall for it.
27 votes -
How a plan to save the power system disappeared: A federal lab found a way to modernize the grid, reduce reliance on coal, and save consumers billions. Then Trump appointees blocked it
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A federal judge has blocked a Trump administration rule that would allow healthcare providers to discriminate against transgender individuals, one day before the rule was set to take effect
19 votes -
Stop panicking about the post office; but do fund them ASAP
13 votes