among the things i have been working on for the past day and change is documentation of the novel uses of hierarchical tags on tildes, how they vary by group (or in the cases here, across most or...
among the things i have been working on for the past day and change is documentation of the novel uses of hierarchical tags on tildes, how they vary by group (or in the cases here, across most or all of the site), and how we might best begin to standardize, introduce, or deprecate them going forward so we're on the same page and end up with tags that aren't a giant, unfriendly, user-unintuitive mess.
obviously, though, this is something that should probably include community input since the community generally determines the tags used in the first place; therefore, this is your chance to check my work, suggest additions, removals, etc. to this draft and in the end, hopefully help craft a standard of hierarchical tagging that's simpler, more intuitive, and more consistent for everybody on the website to use so we can reduce future meta discussions on this and make tags better overall.
this will be done in chunks for convenience purposes (your sake and mine). therefore, if you would be so kind as to try and limit your suggestions to the pertinent tags, that would be most helpful.
Mostly group non-specific tags
There are also a number of tags which are more general and occur or can occur in several or all groups on the website. Some of the more common conventions of hierarchical tags that are generally not group-specific are:
economics. and similar tags
economics tag can occur in several groups, most often ~science, ~news, and ~misc. While it can take hierarchical tags, standalone
economics is usually fine. Nonetheless, with specific branches of economics like microeconomics and macroeconomics, hierarchical tags should probably be used (thus
economics.applied, and so on). Examples of this in action (and further specification under this scheme) are:
economics.trade (economics and trade)
economics.micro.urban (urban microeconomics)
economics.policy.employment (economic policy with respect to employment)
However, when placed in ~science, the standard is always
economics. to align with the standards of tagging in that group, thus
socialsciences.economics.trade instead of
economics.trade. Given that
economics. in this case is itself a hierarchical tag, it may be pertinent to break off the last hierarchical tag into its own tag where it would lead to three consecutive hierarchical tags, like so:
law tag takes a very large number of modifiers and can be used in just about every group due to the fact that law generally transcends the current set of groups Tildes has. Historically, topics related to law have been tagged in the
[modifier] law format (i.e.
us law, and so on); however, this has generally been phased out by the community in favor of using hierarchical tags for the modifiers. Therefore, with respect to pre-existing tags, constructions like
medical law should be deprecated in favor of
law.medical. In addition, the following tags which do exist should be converted accordingly:
medical law (convert to
international law (convert to
labor law (convert to
employment law (convert to
antidiscrimination laws (convert to
copyright law (convert to
maritime law (convert to
environmental law (convert to
gun laws (convert to
All single modifier tags should follow a pattern like this. In other words, if you were going to tag something as "abortion law", you should do
law.abortion instead of
abortion law. Currently well established tags following this format are:
The following tags with location tags in them (and similar tags like them) should be converted slightly differently from the above tags. Instead of being rolled directly, the locator tag (or what would be the locator tag) should be broken out from the tag, and the tag that is left should have its modifier turned into a hierarchical tag if possible. Thus:
usa federal laws is converted to
usa. (To elaborate in this case, the
usa is separated, leaving
federal laws which can be converted into
us law is similarly converted to
european law is converted to
However, this should generally not be done with tags which refer to specific laws. For example
religious neutrality law,
blue laws and
safe haven law are tags which should not be converted to use hierarchical tags because it makes little sense to do so.
There are also two specific tags which should generally not be rolled, which are
martial law and
law enforcement. Martial law is mostly used to refer to a specific state of affairs rather than an actual subset of law, so it makes little sense for this to be grouped into the
law tag, while law enforcement is not really law in the sense being tagged here and is also covered by other tags like
law.enforcement for this purpose would also be ambiguous, since it more likely would refer to enforcement of legal doctrine.
The use of the
sharia law tag is ambiguous. Since sharia is de jure a form of law, it would make sense to roll it like the other examples so that the tag is
law.sharia; however the two uses of it on Tildes are
sharia law and there is currently no real consensus on whether or not to roll it in this manner.
cw. and similar tags
cw. are all universal tags that have been used in one form or another to separate out content which might be objectionable and which are still useful for these purposes. Although all four have been used, the community has largely settled on a standard of using
cw. with potentially triggering content primarily for reasons of clarity (the
trigger. tag also been put forward by Deimos previously as a way of handing potentially triggering and objectionable content).
nsfw. is also sometimes used, but this is less frequent and usually carries a different implication than
As mentioned above, if you are using intending to use a tag of this sort, the preferred option in almost all cases is
cw.. For all intents and purposes,
cw. should be considered mothballed and previous uses of them should probably be converted into
trigger. at some point (particularly the duplicates
The main established tags under the
trigger. banner are:
trigger.homophobia (not used yet, but presumably applicable due to
These are self explanatory for the most part, and cover most bases; however, if you feel that a particular topic is likely to be triggering for some people, it would be courteous to tag it accordingly in line the above tags. (Do also note that all of these tags can be and often are applied as standalone tags instead of being grouped under
trigger. due to the fact that
trigger. has waxed and waned in popularity over Tildes's existence.)
If you are intending to post graphic content, or content which has the potential of exposing people to graphic content (broadly construed) and want to tag it accordingly,
nsfw. is generally preferable over
nsfw. is quite rare, but one example of it in action is the
nsfw.racism tag on Ignore The Poway Synagogue Shooter’s Manifesto: Pay Attention To 8chan’s /pol/ Board due to the exceptionally racist content screencapped as a part of the submitted article.
nsfw.sex is also seen on Do Police Know How To Handle Abuse Within Kinky Relationships? due to the explicitly sexual nature of the article's subject, but this is more of a courteous measure than a necessary one--a qualified
nsfw tag is generally not necessary, and if one is a moderator will most likely add it after the fact.
Tropical cyclone news generally fits into several places, most often ~news, ~enviro, or ~science. Generally, the standard for tagging tropical cyclones, whether they are hurricanes, cyclones, typhoons, or other similar storms is to use the applicable term for the storm in question, and then use a hierarchical tag for the storm's name. Actual examples of this are:
This is relatively straightforward, and covers the nomenclature of all existing basins. However, some basins have not been represented on Tildes thus far, so here are the two cases where standards overlap for reference:
- the Pacific hurricane basin and the South Atlantic basin would both be represented by the same standard as the Atlantic basin (thus,
hurricanes.patricia for the Pacific Hurricane Patricia and
hurricanes.catarina for the South Atlantic Hurricane Catarina)
- the Australian, North Indian, and South Pacific basins would be represented by the South-West Indian basin's standard (thus,
cyclones.tracy for Australian Cyclone Tracy,
cyclones.fani for North Indian Cyclone Fani, and
cyclones.gita for South Pacific Cyclone Gita).
For convenience purposes, storms which are named but have not hit hurricane status should probably still be referred to with the corresponding cyclonic storm tag for their basin, even though they have not formally reached hurricane, cyclone, or typhoon status.
If there is no name to refer to (i.e. a name has not been designated for the storm), a hierarchical tag should probably not be applied at all, since that would get messy and likely necessitate updates. With storms that have only nicknames or lack a name under the nomenclature since they predate cyclone naming (for example, the 1938 New England Hurricane) there's really no best way to do things, however, using a truncation of the nickname may be the most preferable option (for example:
hurricanes.1938 new england).